stompyq
Well-known
First of all some background.
I shoot 35mm and 4x5 and until recently owned a Nikon coolscan 4000 and a very old epson flatbed. Due to some unfortunate life events i sold both scanners several months ago. Last month i finally cobbled together enough to get a Epson v700 flatbed. The scanner is excellent for 4x5 but i have been very disappointed with the 35mm scans. Now i was not expecting miracles but the quality is not good plus it's a PAIN to work with the stupid holders. I am almost at the point of giving up 35mm b/c it really is not worth it to get mediocre quality at the expense of so much time.
So i decided as a last resort i would try a dedicated film scanner again. I can't afford the coolscan (the prices look insane). I can also live without the increased res of the coolscan and have been looking for a cheap older dedicated film scanner. My price range is $150. I ve been looking at the
1. minolta scan dual II/III
2. polarid sprintscan
3. canon FS2710 (the 4000 is over budget).
These all seemed to be cheap but i can't seem to find a lot of information on them online. I can buy a scsi card and have vuescan.
Any experiences or recommendations would be much appreciated. I just want something a little better and less fiddly than the epson. IS this possiable? or should i try harder with the epson?
I shoot 35mm and 4x5 and until recently owned a Nikon coolscan 4000 and a very old epson flatbed. Due to some unfortunate life events i sold both scanners several months ago. Last month i finally cobbled together enough to get a Epson v700 flatbed. The scanner is excellent for 4x5 but i have been very disappointed with the 35mm scans. Now i was not expecting miracles but the quality is not good plus it's a PAIN to work with the stupid holders. I am almost at the point of giving up 35mm b/c it really is not worth it to get mediocre quality at the expense of so much time.
So i decided as a last resort i would try a dedicated film scanner again. I can't afford the coolscan (the prices look insane). I can also live without the increased res of the coolscan and have been looking for a cheap older dedicated film scanner. My price range is $150. I ve been looking at the
1. minolta scan dual II/III
2. polarid sprintscan
3. canon FS2710 (the 4000 is over budget).
These all seemed to be cheap but i can't seem to find a lot of information on them online. I can buy a scsi card and have vuescan.
Any experiences or recommendations would be much appreciated. I just want something a little better and less fiddly than the epson. IS this possiable? or should i try harder with the epson?
Gerry M
Gerry
If you can find one, the ScanDual IV has worked very well for me. I haven't checked prices lately, but they were ~$200.
stompyq
Well-known
Thanks i'll keep a eye out for that one. They do look fairly north of $200 on ebay though
Gerry M
Gerry
PM'd you on a SD III.
batterytypehah!
Lord of the Dings
I have #2 and 3 on your list but the only SCSI machine I have is an ancient PowerBook. The Polaroid worked well enough until it developed a software issue, but it's noisy like a slide projector. I'd look for the Canon.
Dektol Dan
Well-known
Multi II
Multi II
I have a Minolta Dimage Multi II you can have for $200. I think I have everything right down to the original box from when I bought it new. It has very few hours because I also have a Nikon 9000ED.
Just write me, only issue will be shipping if you are far away from Arizona.
Multi II
I have a Minolta Dimage Multi II you can have for $200. I think I have everything right down to the original box from when I bought it new. It has very few hours because I also have a Nikon 9000ED.
Just write me, only issue will be shipping if you are far away from Arizona.
ChrisP
Grain Lover
You can get dedicated Plustek 35mm Scanners for pretty cheap. I've never had a problem with mine
stompyq
Well-known
You can get dedicated Plustek 35mm Scanners for pretty cheap. I've never had a problem with mine
Really? for under $150??
whitecat
Lone Range(find)er
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Older dedicated film scanners are often SCSI connected, and as such require some work and exp$ense to integrate with the latest microcomputer platforms.
As for 35mm scans on the V700, I dunno that you can't do some pretty good work.
As for 35mm scans on the V700, I dunno that you can't do some pretty good work.

stompyq
Well-known
stompyq
Well-known
Older dedicated film scanners are often SCSI connected, and as such require some work and exp$ense to integrate with the latest microcomputer platforms.
As for 35mm scans on the V700, I dunno that you can't do some pretty good work.
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Which is why i have the minolta scanners as a first choice. Meantime i'll keep trying with my v700
wblynch
Well-known
I have a Canon FS2710. It works great on Windows XP. I know you can get it working on Windows 7.
My only complaint is it doesn't have digital ICE for dust removal so there's more post-processing involved. But it's great. In fact I'm using it right now to scan some old Instamatic 126.
My only complaint is it doesn't have digital ICE for dust removal so there's more post-processing involved. But it's great. In fact I'm using it right now to scan some old Instamatic 126.
btgc
Veteran
I also have FS2710, bought it used after using FS4000US for several years. FS2710 has manual feed and no ICE instead of FS4000 but you know what? I like cheaper model better, probably because 4000 were connected to USB (but it has also SCSI interface, but I used USB out of lazyness) while w/ 2710 there's only one choice - SCSI, which is faster than USB. Also Canon's software for 2710 gives me somehow faster/better results, and I quickly correct each frame anyway, if roll isn't very uniform in terms of exposure - then I adjust first frame and go ahead.
Ys, I have to blow off dust but so I did also with 4000. Lack of ICE can be seen but if I have really good frame it takes a minute or two to clone-stamp few spots - if there's any, which greatly depends on how lab or I are handling film.
This days I'm planning to add Win7 partition to existing XP and get it working also on 7.
Ys, I have to blow off dust but so I did also with 4000. Lack of ICE can be seen but if I have really good frame it takes a minute or two to clone-stamp few spots - if there's any, which greatly depends on how lab or I are handling film.
This days I'm planning to add Win7 partition to existing XP and get it working also on 7.
Mablo
Well-known
Perhaps you should try the additional 35mm AN glass from betterscanning.com. It helps a lot if your negs are arching. On the other hand, Plustek sells inexpensive but very good 35mm scanners.
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
After SP 2 on XP, you could no longer use the FS2710 with the Canon software. You need VueScan or other software that can talk to the SCSI card and scanner directly. Same for Windows 7. Also note that newer Windows machines usualy have PCI-e slots, not PCI, so you would need to get a new SCSI adapter. All that, plus the need for 4x5 capability, is what drove me to the Epson V750.I have a Canon FS2710. It works great on Windows XP. I know you can get it working on Windows 7.
My only complaint is it doesn't have digital ICE for dust removal so there's more post-processing involved. But it's great. In fact I'm using it right now to scan some old Instamatic 126.
wblynch
Well-known
After SP 2 on XP, you could no longer use the FS2710 with the Canon software. You need VueScan or other software that can talk to the SCSI card and scanner directly.
I am afraid that is not true. While I have no direct experience with Win-7 my Win-XP is beyond SP3 with all updates and I use Canocraft software and drivers. I will admit finding the newest versions of the software and drivers was a chore. I have them if anyone needs it.
ChrisP
Grain Lover
Really? for under $150??
Maybe not under $150 but I got mine for like $210 from B&H. They got on sale quite often
btgc
Veteran
I am afraid that is not true. While I have no direct experience with Win-7 my Win-XP is beyond SP3 with all updates and I use Canocraft software and drivers. I will admit finding the newest versions of the software and drivers was a chore. I have them if anyone needs it.
Also my XP SP3 and 2710 work together just fine.
I have following, if anyone needs:
aic78xx_aic78u2_win7_2k8r2_x86_v605457.exe - Adaptec SCSI driver for 2904 adapter on Win7
aspi_v471.exe - ASPI over SCSI driver on XP
S2503enx.exe - Canon driver for FS2710 + ScanCraft, works on XP
lewis44
Well-known
If you don't mind SCSI, and it sounds like you don't, I would suggest the Nikon LS-2000. As Good or better than what you have listed and there is a guy that still does a complete service for about $100, if you need one.
Has ICE, Multi Sampling, and auto feed for negative strips up to 6 frames at a time.
You should be able to find one within your budget.
Plus your experience with the Nikon 4000 makes it an easy transition. All is the same with the exception of the SCSI & 2700dpi instead of 4000dpi.
Has ICE, Multi Sampling, and auto feed for negative strips up to 6 frames at a time.
You should be able to find one within your budget.
Plus your experience with the Nikon 4000 makes it an easy transition. All is the same with the exception of the SCSI & 2700dpi instead of 4000dpi.
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