mackigator
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@Ronald: yep, that would be the thing to have.
The other thing that I think about are the future versions of this design. As the sensors handle higher ISO's better, fast lenses become less of a big deal, as is already happening in the SLR world.
The turning point for me is when I can shoot handheld at F/2 ISO 400. Mentally I compare most of my cameras to my Hexanon 50mm F2 shooting 400x, in terms of ability to see and record an exposure. So something like my CV 25mm f/4 would need a useable ISO 1600 for me to be happy. That looks doable now.
I think this camera design opens up a whole new world, especially for the slow CV glass if they master the higher ISO noise. Because no one wants to pay a lot for lenses - what we want is for our photos to look a certain way. If I can get that without lenses that cost a fortune, I'm in. Where do I sign?
The other thing that I think about are the future versions of this design. As the sensors handle higher ISO's better, fast lenses become less of a big deal, as is already happening in the SLR world.
The turning point for me is when I can shoot handheld at F/2 ISO 400. Mentally I compare most of my cameras to my Hexanon 50mm F2 shooting 400x, in terms of ability to see and record an exposure. So something like my CV 25mm f/4 would need a useable ISO 1600 for me to be happy. That looks doable now.
I think this camera design opens up a whole new world, especially for the slow CV glass if they master the higher ISO noise. Because no one wants to pay a lot for lenses - what we want is for our photos to look a certain way. If I can get that without lenses that cost a fortune, I'm in. Where do I sign?
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For those who can read Japanese, does it state that the adapter with the Heliar is a direct Leica thread mount --> µ4/3?
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I have a similar thought process on this. When the camera can replace my Hexar AF, I'll be happy.
That means 1250 iso and f2.
I'll be waiting to get my hands on one of these with the 20mm f1.7 to see if it'll meet that standard.
That means 1250 iso and f2.
I'll be waiting to get my hands on one of these with the 20mm f1.7 to see if it'll meet that standard.
@Ronald: yep, that would be the thing to have.
The other thing that I think about are the future versions of this design. As the sensors handle higher ISO's better, fast lenses become less of a big deal, as is already happening in the SLR world.
The turning point for me is when I can shoot handheld at F/2 ISO 400. Mentally I compare most of my cameras to my Hexanon 50mm F2 shooting 400x, in terms of ability to see and record an exposure. So something like my CV 25mm f/4 would need a useable ISO 1600 for me to be happy. That looks doable now.
I think this camera design opens up a whole new world, especially for the slow CV glass if they master the higher ISO noise. Because no one wants to pay a lot for lenses - what we want is for our photos to look a certain way. If I can get that without lenses that cost a fortune, I'm in. Where do I sign?
veraikon
xpanner
Novoflex starts delivery of µFT-> M adapters tomorrow (Code MFT /LEM)
How about a 25mm/0.95 on the G1?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tachar/3088524819/in/photostream/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220324672488
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tachar/3088524819/in/photostream/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220324672488

Fred Burton
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I've got a box full of old, fast, movie lenses that have heretofore been worthless. I might be able to retire on them, now. 
Here is a G1 you can put them on. 

For those who can read Japanese, does it state that the adapter with the Heliar is a direct Leica thread mount --> µ4/3?
Nope, not direct. You still need an LTM/M adapter.
srtiwari
Daktari
Here is an option for M users-
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/12/n...unt_lenses_to_micro_four_thirds_system-2.html
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/12/n...unt_lenses_to_micro_four_thirds_system-2.html
veraikon
xpanner
yes it is the new Novoflex adapter (see post 50)Here is an option for M users-
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2008/12/n...unt_lenses_to_micro_four_thirds_system-2.html
or
http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65073&page=6
Nope, not direct. You still need an LTM/M adapter.
Thanks Jon...
I called Novoflex today regarding their adapter, but they wouldn't take an order for shipment to the US. They said the adapter would start shipping Friday. They referred me to their US distributor, who referred me to Adorama and B&H.
Tuolumne
Veteran
Thanks Jon...
I called Novoflex today regarding their adapter, but they wouldn't take an order for shipment to the US. They said the adapter would start shipping Friday. They referred me to their US distributor, who referred me to Adorama and B&H.
CameraQuest will sell it, too.
/T
Yes, I think he's going to carry the Japanese made unit as opposed to the Novoflex.
Tuolumne
Veteran
Yes, I think he's going to carry the Japanese made unit as opposed to the Novoflex.
What's the difference?
/T
Nationality? 
Tuolumne
Veteran
The Novoflex is listed at 149 euros, I haven't confirmed a price in US $ yet.
The Cameraquest/Japanese one is $175 on CameraQuest.com
Fuctionality should be the same.
The Cameraquest/Japanese one is $175 on CameraQuest.com
Fuctionality should be the same.
sirius
Well-known
I wish the G1 wasn't so blinkin' ugly!
monochromejrnl
Well-known
anyone on RFF have first hand experience with the G1 and M/LTM lenses? curious what their thoughts are and how the live view compares with a traditional vf...
mine main concern isn't the focal length adjustment as much as how the live view LCD compares to an optical VF when composing images...
thanks in advance.
Ken
mine main concern isn't the focal length adjustment as much as how the live view LCD compares to an optical VF when composing images...
thanks in advance.
Ken
Here is a relevant thread, esp. post #3:
http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4194
http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4194
anyone on RFF have first hand experience with the G1 and M/LTM lenses? curious what their thoughts are and how the live view compares with a traditional vf...
mine main concern isn't the focal length adjustment as much as how the live view LCD compares to an optical VF when composing images...
thanks in advance.
Ken
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