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when the g1 first came out and many rushed to buy it, there were those who waited patiently to see what olympus might be coming out with.
there were so many threads with posts that ended with, 'well, i like the g1 except for it's looks -hate that bump- so, i'll wait to see what oly does'.

and now, after olympus has debuted it's m4/3 camera i find myself in the same but opposite position...i'm waiting to see what panasonic might do next.

joe
 
In a nutshell, that's one of the problems with digital cameras.

;)
 
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compact, but with no in body stabilization?

I think both Oly and Panny may offer multiple new bodies in the next year. It would be nice to see a third company join the fun too.

I am waiting for some real reviews still on the EEEEE PPPPP. It obviously is not the right cup of tea for many, but I get the feeling to date that I have only read reports of users who were bound to like it, no real objective reviews, and complaints of those who have not used it or only have played with it a little and wish to go no further.

It feels the same as when the Bessa R first came out.
 
I'm still waiting. I don't like the G1 hump, but I may give in. I like how the Pen looks, but I don't want to use the LCD screen as a finder (nor do I want to buy an external finder for every prime lens I mount).
 
I like how the Pen looks, but I don't want to use the LCD screen as a finder (nor do I want to buy an external finder for every prime lens I mount).

I've had a brief play around with the Pen, and I liked it less than I expected to. It turns out I am really committed to having a viewfinder. Composing at arms length completely fails for me. I found the Pen with the zoom lens really awkward to use, although I did like the way it looked and the construction seems solid.

Unfortunately, I wasn't able to try it with the prime and external finder.

Hopefully, the next generation of micro 4/3 will combine some of the best features of the Olympus and the Panasonic. A TTL EV finder (like the Panasonic) but in a nice compact body with no hump, like the Pen, would be nice.

There's no reason why a micro 4/3 camera couldn't work more like a slightly more compact Contax G.
 
I'm happy with my G1 as an all-around great camera, even though it doesn't look like a street camera, with the dreaded hump. But thinking about full-frame, compact cameras, I may have to dust off the old Olympus Stylus (35mm fixed lens) and go purchase some of that full-frame sensor stuff in the yellow or green box. Perhaps there's a wake-up call to those with old film P&S cameras languishing unused.

~Joe
 
I'm happy with my G1 as an all-around great camera, even though it doesn't look like a street camera, with the dreaded hump. But thinking about full-frame, compact cameras, I may have to dust off the old Olympus Stylus (35mm fixed lens) and go purchase some of that full-frame sensor stuff in the yellow or green box. Perhaps there's a wake-up call to those with old film P&S cameras languishing unused.
Joe, that parallels my thoughts on the digital Pen: "OK, cool, though it doesn't quite suit me; but how about a digital Stylus for those who'd live without interchangeable lenses if only we could have an optical viewfinder?"

Just a thought...

...Mike
 
:confused: Uh, hasn't a digital Stylus already been done by most manufacturers, and it's called a digital point and shoot? And the Stylus name does live on in Olympus's own digital line. What am I missing?
 
Joe, that parallels my thoughts on the digital Pen: "OK, cool, though it doesn't quite suit me; but how about a digital Stylus for those who'd live without interchangeable lenses if only we could have an optical viewfinder?"

Just a thought...

...Mike

Isn't this called a Sigma DP2?

/Ira
 
:confused: Uh, hasn't a digital Stylus already been done by most manufacturers, and it's called a digital point and shoot? And the Stylus name does live on in Olympus's own digital line. What am I missing?
A large(ish) sensor and a decent integrated optical viewfinder (not a finder that clips to the hot shoe).

...Mike
 
I bought the Pana G1 two months ago, and have been using it with C mount lenses. It's working really really well for me -- so much so that I haven't shot any film in that time. The articulated screen turns out to be really useful. The kit lens is too slow for my purposes, but using a fast cine lens provides very beautiful results.
 
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A large(ish) sensor and a decent integrated optical viewfinder (not a finder that clips to the hot shoe).
No one's come close to hitting the target for me, but at least a few more companies are bothering to take slightly better aim.


- Barrett
 
The lack of viewfinder doesn't bother me.

No VF?? Why?

To Joe's "question". I'd like to see body-IS added to the basic G1. I hope Pani will continue a non-video camera line. I doubt it, but it would be nice to build-up/improve upon the G1 and let the G1H run a separate course.

/
 
Would you prefer an EVF and totally omit the LCD screen? That would be an interesting design choice...
 
No VF?? Why?

To Joe's "question". I'd like to see body-IS added to the basic G1. I hope Pani will continue a non-video camera line. I doubt it, but it would be nice to build-up/improve upon the G1 and let the G1H run a separate course.

/

i hope the same thing as i have absolutely no interest in video.
i like the g1, even the way it looks is fine to me.
it's small enough and the kit lenses are great, but slow, and i can live with that. i am, however, looking forward to the 20/1.7 for a nice fast winter lens. (it's dark here in winter)

i also hope that both panasonic and oly work towards a more rf like camera.
 
Would you prefer an EVF and totally omit the LCD screen? That would be an interesting design choice...
No. The Olympus C-8080 I use has both an EVF and an articulating LCD. Why must I settle for one over the other, especially as we're not discussing low-end digicams here?

- Barrett
 
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