kermaier
Well-known
I almost bought one from the RFF classifieds last year, but chickened out in the end.
kermaier
Well-known
I know that bug, Ari
True, Roland -- your posts are partly responsible for my having contracted it.
You don't go wider than 28mm? Ah, perhaps if I hadn't given up 35mm film for crop-sensor digital I'd feel uncomfortable with the 21mm and 25mm....
I love my Canon 25/3.5 LTM, so I'm able to keep my Nikkor lust in check for now.
Ari
kermaier
Well-known
BTW -- my apologies to all and sundry for the temporary thread hijack.
James24
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raid
Dad Photographer
Due to the DOF of such a lens, there is no need for using the SLR version only on Nikon S cameras. Is it easy to find an M adapter?
F-S/C and F/M adapters exists, but the SLR version of the Nikkor-O 2.1cm f4 is not rangefinder coupled on either an S-mount camera or an M-mount camera.
The F-M adapter is MUCH easier to find than the F-S/C adapter.
From your question, I take it that you think the F-mount Nikkor-O 2.1cm f4 is rangefinder coupled on an S-mount body???
raid
Dad Photographer
Not at all. I know that the less costly F version is not RF coupled. I use a Minolta Rokkor 2.1cm 4 and a Canon 19mm 3.5 each with an adapter on M bodies, without the RF coupling. The RF coupling is not really needed.
I was asking about the adapter for using the SLR F version (without RF coupling) Nikkor 2.1cm on the M.
I was asking about the adapter for using the SLR F version (without RF coupling) Nikkor 2.1cm on the M.
Oh ok, my misunderstanding.
To answer your question, as per my previous post, there is an F-M adapter so the F-mount version of the lens can be used on an M-mount camera.
http://www.cameraquest.com/adpSLRRF.htm
raid
Dad Photographer
I will have to get me such an adapter.
The other issue would be to adapt the lens to my F2.
There are many cost levels, from $40 to over $200.
A Nikon F2? What other issue to adapt the lens?
Highway 61
Revisited
What would cost $40 to over $200 ?
enasniearth
Well-known
Nikon f f2 type 2.1 cm f4
Nikon f f2 type 2.1 cm f4
The 2.1 cm f4 in Nikon slr version is an odd bird .
The Nikon f / f2 and some nikkor mats have the tab in the camera body that makes use of this lens possible .
The lens has more in common with a canon fd breechlock mount than a Nikon f .
The lens has a tab that mates with a tab in the Nikon body .
You set the lens so the tab is behind the lens mount ring. ( there is a clickstop and set focus so the tab is in proper position)
You drop the lens onto the body , rotate the outer chrome ring until it locks .
The Nikon f f2 is made for the use of this fine lens .
The problem with the voigtlander f- s and f to Leica m adapters is that they lack this tab that is standard to the production Nikon f . ( cameraquests original listing for the f- s adapter stated it would not work for the 2.1 cm f 4 nikkor in Nikon f mount )
So there is no way to align the lens so it functions properly . Posts refer to using duct tape to accomplish this .
The Nikon f requires the finder to be mounted over the rewind crank so it makes for a large package .
You can modify the f , by removing the prism and installing a reduced height shoe , you also modify the finder to Leica shoe mount type.
I posted my adapted Nikon f ( pawnshop buy $45 mirror lazy not good )
Much laughter ( well the camera can not be used as an slr now )
You can buy the rf coupled unit ( 298 produced ) or purchase the 21 zeiss biogon ( like performance to the nikkor )
The Nikon f type is the same as the rf type , lacking only rf coupling
Well the nikon f body is 3/4 inch longer , however with modified finder is the same height or lower than an s 3. The locked up mirror gives titanium shutter sp performance ,iit is a guess focus 2.1 cm , wide open depth of field is from 4.5 feet to infinity .its pretty easy
I can guess focus this ,
Nikon f f2 type 2.1 cm f4
The 2.1 cm f4 in Nikon slr version is an odd bird .
The Nikon f / f2 and some nikkor mats have the tab in the camera body that makes use of this lens possible .
The lens has more in common with a canon fd breechlock mount than a Nikon f .
The lens has a tab that mates with a tab in the Nikon body .
You set the lens so the tab is behind the lens mount ring. ( there is a clickstop and set focus so the tab is in proper position)
You drop the lens onto the body , rotate the outer chrome ring until it locks .
The Nikon f f2 is made for the use of this fine lens .
The problem with the voigtlander f- s and f to Leica m adapters is that they lack this tab that is standard to the production Nikon f . ( cameraquests original listing for the f- s adapter stated it would not work for the 2.1 cm f 4 nikkor in Nikon f mount )
So there is no way to align the lens so it functions properly . Posts refer to using duct tape to accomplish this .
The Nikon f requires the finder to be mounted over the rewind crank so it makes for a large package .
You can modify the f , by removing the prism and installing a reduced height shoe , you also modify the finder to Leica shoe mount type.
I posted my adapted Nikon f ( pawnshop buy $45 mirror lazy not good )
Much laughter ( well the camera can not be used as an slr now )
You can buy the rf coupled unit ( 298 produced ) or purchase the 21 zeiss biogon ( like performance to the nikkor )
The Nikon f type is the same as the rf type , lacking only rf coupling
Well the nikon f body is 3/4 inch longer , however with modified finder is the same height or lower than an s 3. The locked up mirror gives titanium shutter sp performance ,iit is a guess focus 2.1 cm , wide open depth of field is from 4.5 feet to infinity .its pretty easy
I can guess focus this ,
raid
Dad Photographer
I meant to use the lens ontne f2 an get a flash mount for the finder.
raid
Dad Photographer
The F -M adapter on ebay.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
For a while I had two 21f4 Nikkors. One is more or less permanently on my S2 with the F-S adapter and the other one was on a black F.
It is a good lens, maybe not a Super Angulon 21f3.4 - but close enough. The finder on the F is a problem as they are off-set slightly - and keep falling off! If I didn't have the F-S adapter I would simply dedicate a F body for it. Probably cheaper than getting an adapter anyway.
Highway 61
Revisited
If you've got the original finder of the F version of the lens there is no additional flash mount to get.
If you use a third party 21mm finder, an AS-1 adapter is what you need, the cost is under $10.
If you intend to use the original finder of the F version of the lens on a camera body fitted with a standard flash shoe, this is just not possible unless you permanently hack the finder to convert its dedicated Nikon female flash shoe into a standard male flash shoe.
If you do this, then you can use that finder on the AS-1 adapter, though.
But once you get a Nikon F you'll need the grey Nikon F type flash shoe adapter eventually. Same cost as the AS-1.
So you need both right now.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have the F2 now as I have sold my F many years ago. Once I get the lens in the mail, I will try things out. Thanks for the detailed reply above.
kbg32
neo-romanticist
I owned a F version with M adapter for awhile back in the late 70's. I got rid of it when I bought a Super Angulon. My avatar was taken with the Nikkor.
raid
Dad Photographer
Hi Keith,
How come that some people here state that this lens cannot be used with M cameras? Did you have any problems?
raid
Dad Photographer
You can add me as a new user of this lens in F mount, Tom. Once it will arrive to me in the mail, I will compare its performance with my W-Rokkor 21mm 4. I know that you have used both lenses and that you prefer the Nikkor over the W-Rokkor.