Post your drum scans (aka the first official Drum Scanners thread)

I have a lovely Scanmate 11000 doorstop, it certainly would keep the door open but you may trip over it when entering or exiting.

Very frustrating trying to get it to work.
 
Before we test different control boards...Scan of alu foil by using newer control board. Strips visible but are they the same as manual describes? Not sure. Also is AC voltage stabilization important? (have no UPS to try at the moment). Scanner was placed on a ground (carpet).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByP8kkW_h00uRUZZR0V2NTRGN2M/edit?usp=sharing

Additional info: I've tested here Adaptec 2930LPE pci-e adapter on Intel DN2800MT - works like a charm with SM11K but be careful - SCSI cards from servers doesn't work - they need to be reflashed otherwise motherboard will not run. I've used both: boxed 2930LPE and second hand from Fujitsu server.
 
tonisilvennoinen said:
I also run SM 11000! Film was Kodak Portra 160..
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Excellent shot! Don't hesitate to post some more, we love drumscans here! :]


Ed Bray said:
I have a lovely Scanmate 11000 doorstop, it certainly would keep the door open but you may trip over it when entering or exiting.

Very frustrating trying to get it to work.
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Ed, do it a step at the time. First get proper scsi card, cabling and scsi terminator (get both active and passive terminator for experimentation - SCSI bits are cheap as chips these days), make sure computer has the correct SCSI drivers installed for your card and it sees the SCSI card. If yes, set scanner rear thumbweel SCSI ID between 1-5 (ID0 will not work, ID7,8,9 are for maintenance mode). If you have Adaptec card under OS9 the Adaptec SCSI probe (comes with SCSI card driver) should see the scanner and then both Color Trio or Color Quartet will fire up the scanner.



jzagaja said:
Before we test different control boards...Scan of alu foil by using newer control board. Strips visible but are they the same as manual describes? Not sure. Also is AC voltage stabilization important? (have no UPS to try at the moment). Scanner was placed on a ground (carpet).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByP8kkW_h00uRUZZR0V2NTRGN2M/edit?usp=sharing

Additional info: I've tested here Adaptec 2930LPE pci-e adapter on Intel DN2800MT - works like a charm with SM11K but be careful - SCSI cards from servers doesn't work - they need to be reflashed otherwise motherboard will not run. I've used both: boxed 2930LPE and second hand from Fujitsu server.
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Good info Jaz.

Voltage regulation really depends on the quality of electricity in your area. If you observe normal tungsten bulb (you can see tiny brigtness changes) it should give you an idea how much the voltage varies from your sockets. Mine's not so good during daytime and I have APC Line-R 1200 regulator on mine, so far no complaints.
 
OK, now a fundamental change of media. So far it's been all-film game and transmission scanning, but now it's time for some of proper photographic paper scans - a reflective drum scanning (ehh, good times getting those drums in balance while they rotate 1200rpm with thick and heavy high-quality analog photo paper stacked on :D).

Those are some of my darkroom Lith-prints from Iran expedition on a motorcycle.


 
tsiklonaut said:
Excellent shot! Don't hesitate to post some more, we love drumscans here! :]




Ed, do it a step at the time. First get proper scsi card, cabling and scsi terminator (get both active and passive terminator for experimentation - SCSI bits are cheap as chips these days), make sure computer has the correct SCSI drivers installed for your card and it sees the SCSI card. If yes, set scanner rear thumbweel SCSI ID between 1-5 (ID0 will not work, ID7,8,9 are for maintenance mode). If you have Adaptec card under OS9 the Adaptec SCSI probe (comes with SCSI card driver) should see the scanner and then both Color Trio or Color Quartet will fire up the scanner.
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Thanks for the advice, I can now offer an update as to where I currently am with the SM11000.

I now have a 800Mz G4 Powermac with 1.5GB Ram running a clean install of OS-9 (9.2.1). I have installed a AVA2906 SCSI PCI card which is recognised by both SCSI Probe 5 and Power Domain, the Scanmate 11000 is also recognised on both programs at channel 5.

Using either ColorTrio or ColorQuartet 5.2 I am able to get a full preview scan, after that it starts to go horribly downhill, even selecting an area of 24mm x 36mm will not allow a greater than 9MB file to be saved without issue.

The scanner also seems to stick running sometimes in one point (after an error on the scan is reported) requiring it to be switched off for a few minutes to reset it.

I am seriously wondering why I did not just stick with my V750.
 
really like those lith-print scans! This thread has been such an eye-opener for someone who's only used a consumer V700.. I've seen Flextight V5 scans but these appear better, even at these small sizes on the web.
 
Ed Bray said:
Thanks for the advice, I can now offer an update as to where I currently am with the SM11000.

I now have a 800Mz G4 Powermac with 1.5GB Ram running a clean install of OS-9 (9.2.1). I have installed a AVA2906 SCSI PCI card which is recognised by both SCSI Probe 5 and Power Domain, the Scanmate 11000 is also recognised on both programs at channel 5.

Using either ColorTrio or ColorQuartet 5.2 I am able to get a full preview scan, after that it starts to go horribly downhill, even selecting an area of 24mm x 36mm will not allow a greater than 9MB file to be saved without issue.

The scanner also seems to stick running sometimes in one point (after an error on the scan is reported) requiring it to be switched off for a few minutes to reset it.

I am seriously wondering why I did not just stick with my V750.
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Is your PowerMac the Quicksilver or older? I know Quicksilvers had SCSI problems.

CQ behaviour-wise it looks like the same problem I had with my lower-end ScanMate 3000 model, while Color Trio worked allright. With CQ it behaved very irrationally. I didn't solve them completely, but first I'd check if all the fuses in the scanner are OK. There's one also on control board - you need to lift it out to see it.

The most obvious fault is your Computer-SCSIcard-SCSIcabling-Terminator chain. ANY faulty link in chain can cause this, the most common seems to be Computer-SCSI card combo. I had to replace my complete mac computer (from G3 iMac to 350Mhz G4 PowerMac) to get CQ work stable. Older G4- and G4 PowerMacs seem to handle SCSI the best, with newer macs it's a lottery. I'd also buy a second (different) SCSI card + cable (buy the short-versions since long SCSI cables may have transmission problems) and different terminators and swap between those. It's annoying and time-consuming to experiment with different hardware/software, but if you get it working, it's a joy of high-end analog/digital conversion.

Good luck!

PS: you CAN stick to V750 if you want quicker scanning but prefer considerably lower quality and awful rendering ;) I do use my Epson flatbed for some quick preview works, sometimes for web, but never for something I put into 'showcase' level, whether a print- or even for a web-use, the consumer flatbed scanners straight-out suck (erm, I mean "lack") in quality if you ask me.



wintoid said:
Would love to see some 35mm scanned on a drum scanner... :D
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Sorry, don't shoot 35mm meself and I obviously don't post my client's work who shoot 35mm. But I can tell you with excellent 35mm rangefinder optics the scans are almost as good as an "average" quality MF SLR shot, meaning surprisingly good! ;)


lynnb said:
really like those lith-print scans! This thread has been such an eye-opener for someone who's only used a consumer V700.. I've seen Flextight V5 scans but these appear better, even at these small sizes on the web.
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Thanks! You see lot of people say that for web use there's not much difference between low-end or high-end, but there is.

The interesting thing about high-end scanners is indeed even at smaller web-sizes viewing the overall "looks" is somehow noticablt better i.e. compared to flatbeds or any dedicated prosumer film scanner. On downscaling you'll lose a lot of information obviously, but it's the overall rendering of tonality, color depth and fine detail microcontrast of the original scan that you 'take with you' on downscaling the image that makes the difference.

Cheers,
Margus
 
Here's a scan of a 15-year expired Fujichrome 64T shot. 13x18 cm format, Sinar Norma, scanned on a Scanmate 3000, bottom cropped a bit. It's the film's age that caused the reds to pop out, as the film has lost some sensitivity in colder part of the spectrum.

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MarinB said:
Here's a scan of a 15-year expired Fujichrome 64T shot. 13x18 cm format, Sinar Norma, scanned on a Scanmate 3000, bottom cropped a bit. It's the film's age that caused the reds to pop out, as the film has lost some sensitivity in colder part of the spectrum.
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Awesome scan and shot Marin! Looks like 15 years doesn't mean much for quality film :)

tonisilvennoinen said:
Here`s a bit dark velvia 50 scanned SM11000.
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Doesn't look dark at all, just right IMO.

tonisilvennoinen said:
Very dark Kodak e 100 g.Nikon f5+85mm pc-nikkor.
SM11000 scan.
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Amazing detail you've pulled sky vs ground, did you use ND filters or just the lighting was right?

Guys, post some more! :)

Margus
 
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