thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
thanks for the replies guys... varied lens choice, as to be expected... but most not going past the 50mm mark... lots of 28's and 35's though. Hmmm... I really like the ZM 25 biogon, but that's about a year away for me to save up for it. Thinking maybe to go mwooten's route, a 28 and 40... but then, a 28 is too close to the 25, which I will one day get! haha...
@johnmcd: looove the landscape/fisherman shot! The CV21 shots look great!
What about CV25 insteada the 25 biogon? I lose a stop, but do I really need the missing stop? Since for lowlight, I'm thinking the 50/1.5 summarit (is this good? About the only Leitz lens I could possibly afford haha)
@johnmcd: looove the landscape/fisherman shot! The CV21 shots look great!
What about CV25 insteada the 25 biogon? I lose a stop, but do I really need the missing stop? Since for lowlight, I'm thinking the 50/1.5 summarit (is this good? About the only Leitz lens I could possibly afford haha)
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
You can find some very high quality 25mm Canon lenses on "that auction site" for not too much. A sample which is optically good but with some cosmetic barrel markings from use should run under $500 with finder.
nksyoon
Well-known
When I went to Cuba with the R-D1 I had 15/4.5-21/2.8-28/1.9-50/1.4. 21 and 28 were used for the majority of shots.
morgan
Well-known
think about the panasonic g1 with kit lens. great for travel - small, light and sharp.
Yeah, I've thought about the G1, but the LX-3 has the nice wide 2.0-2.8 lens, and it's a small camera. I feel if I got a whole new mount, that I'm just going to down the lens hole again. OTOH, I'm really intrigued to see if olympus brings to market that vintagey looking micro 4/3 that was making the rounds a few months back.
Catto
Photographer
Just don't let yourself be fooled into thinking the f/2.0 lens on the Leica / Panasonic means it'll do shallow DOF effects at anything other than minimum focus distance - I've got that as a travel combo with my RD-1s, and there's simply no comparison visually in that way.
The D-Lux - like all small cameras, I would argue, is designed to please the majority of consumers, using the small sensor to create more apparent depth of field in each & every image, thus ensuring that groups of friends are all sharp when they cram together in front of you at parties. It's not a tool for selective focus / portrait work.
That said, the D-Lux 4 / LX3 has much lower-contrast files, so it sometimes has the advantage for that reason in the industrial-laser-cutting-strength New Zealand sun, where the Epson's dynamic range limitations are most obvious. Up to you what's important for your particular taste in images...
R!
The D-Lux - like all small cameras, I would argue, is designed to please the majority of consumers, using the small sensor to create more apparent depth of field in each & every image, thus ensuring that groups of friends are all sharp when they cram together in front of you at parties. It's not a tool for selective focus / portrait work.
That said, the D-Lux 4 / LX3 has much lower-contrast files, so it sometimes has the advantage for that reason in the industrial-laser-cutting-strength New Zealand sun, where the Epson's dynamic range limitations are most obvious. Up to you what's important for your particular taste in images...
R!
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
What do you guys think, if I get a 25/40/75 travel combo with the rd-1? Is the 75 to hard to use on the rd-1? Should I go for 21 instead of 25?
BTW: for wider and longer needs, I have a DSLR for that. I am thinking of a minimalist setup for the RD-1.
BTW: for wider and longer needs, I have a DSLR for that. I am thinking of a minimalist setup for the RD-1.
kshapero
South Florida Man
If it was only one lens, I'd go with the CV 28mm/f2 to get the "new/old perfect" focal length of 42mm. I am a great fan of the 40-43 fl for a walk around lens.
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
I like the 40mm FL in my DSLR (same crop) so I chose the 40 as my base FL (I have a 50 and 35 with my DSLR, but the 40 is my preferred "digital normal"). I also have a 28mm and I like the view I get with it on a 1.5x cropped sensor, however, given the prices of RF lenses, I cannot justify getting a 28mm when its FL is so close to a 40mm... so I'm thinking 25 or 21...
back alley
IMAGES
15/28 seems to be working for me. i also carry the 50 at times for something 'longer'.
my favourite, the 35/2.8 zm lens stays home most of the time now, very sad...
my favourite, the 35/2.8 zm lens stays home most of the time now, very sad...
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
I'm also thinking of a possible 15/28/40 combo...
is it foolish/difficult to get anything longer than 50?
is it foolish/difficult to get anything longer than 50?
back alley
IMAGES
I'm also thinking of a possible 15/28/40 combo...
is it foolish/difficult to get anything longer than 50?
only you can answer that one.
i hope to buy the new 85/4 zm lens eventually.
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
hmm... problem is, where I am, there are no stores where I can test the lenses first. all have to be bought online. oh well... will try out my initial plan of 21 or 25/40/75... thanks backalley! 
back alley
IMAGES
same here. lots of photo stores locally but little or no rf gear.
nksyoon
Well-known
I'm also thinking of a possible 15/28/40 combo...
is it foolish/difficult to get anything longer than 50?
I've used a 90 with the R-D1 but it involves some guesswork/estimation of your framing. OK if you have time for multiple shots.
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
Yeah, sucks... I base everything on reviews, samples and user comments 
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
I've used a 90 with the R-D1 but it involves some guesswork/estimation of your framing. OK if you have time for multiple shots.
How about the 75? Thinking that its FL is much nearer to 50, that it might be easier?
Anyone use a 75 regularly with their RD-1?
morgan
Well-known
Just don't let yourself be fooled into thinking the f/2.0 lens on the Leica / Panasonic means it'll do shallow DOF effects at anything other than minimum focus distance - I've got that as a travel combo with my RD-1s, and there's simply no comparison visually in that way.
The D-Lux - like all small cameras, I would argue, is designed to please the majority of consumers, using the small sensor to create more apparent depth of field in each & every image, thus ensuring that groups of friends are all sharp when they cram together in front of you at parties. It's not a tool for selective focus / portrait work.
That said, the D-Lux 4 / LX3 has much lower-contrast files, so it sometimes has the advantage for that reason in the industrial-laser-cutting-strength New Zealand sun, where the Epson's dynamic range limitations are most obvious. Up to you what's important for your particular taste in images...
R!
Yeah, I know I won't get a shallow DOF on PS or even a 4/3rd. The idea of switching to something like the lx-3 is more about just enjoying my traveling more with a smaller camera with some zoom flexibility. I don't expect it to be the same as my film cameras or the r-d1, but I have a tendency to bring along too much gear on trips and this would simplify the situation. On my last few trips I've found myself shooting less anyway, but I wouldn't want to be without a camera.
Phil_F_NM
Camera hacker
"What do you guys think, if I get a 25/40/75 travel combo with the rd-1? Is the 75 to hard to use on the rd-1? Should I go for 21 instead of 25?
BTW: for wider and longer needs, I have a DSLR for that. I am thinking of a minimalist setup for the RD-1."
I think that if you're going "minimalist" then just one lens would be what you're looking for. Either a good 28mm like the M Rokkor or a good 35mm f/2. All three lenses isn't really minimalist as it's a pretty complete kit.
Regarding the longer than 50mm on the R-D1, I love it. My favorite lens ever is my 10.5cm f/2.5 Nikkor in LTM and it's amazing on the R-D1. Yeah, about a 150mm FOV but guesstimating the frame area isn't too hard. I usually just add the height of a focusing patch above and below the real one as well as the width on either side. It gives a decent approximation and using the camera's VF you can more accurately account for parallax error with the moving framelines. That said, I'm probably going to have small framelines for a 90mm or 105mm added to the 28mm mask in the near future.
BTW: for wider and longer needs, I have a DSLR for that. I am thinking of a minimalist setup for the RD-1."
I think that if you're going "minimalist" then just one lens would be what you're looking for. Either a good 28mm like the M Rokkor or a good 35mm f/2. All three lenses isn't really minimalist as it's a pretty complete kit.
Regarding the longer than 50mm on the R-D1, I love it. My favorite lens ever is my 10.5cm f/2.5 Nikkor in LTM and it's amazing on the R-D1. Yeah, about a 150mm FOV but guesstimating the frame area isn't too hard. I usually just add the height of a focusing patch above and below the real one as well as the width on either side. It gives a decent approximation and using the camera's VF you can more accurately account for parallax error with the moving framelines. That said, I'm probably going to have small framelines for a 90mm or 105mm added to the 28mm mask in the near future.
mr. matt
Member
My current traveling setup consists of: cv 21/4 & cv 35/1.4
Small, light, mix of wide and fast. Carrying lenses larger than these is not ideal. cv 35/1.2 is great - but not for traveling. They also have the added bonus of not being noticeable, super expensive or hard to replace. I wouldn't go longer than 40mm, mainly due to the fact you're carrying DSLR.
If you're carrying one lens, I second it being a 28mm. There are more than a few good ones out there, mine being a cv 28/1.9.
On another note, I was wondering what is meant by "traveling". If you're going from hotel to tour bus to guided tour to prepaid dinner - you could get away with bring all your gear with little worry of weight or safety. On the other hand, if you're walking through rougher places unguided with one or less traveling companions and your worries extend past your gear to where you're sleeping tonight and carrying all your belongings x number of miles - then you might want to look at the lightest possible setup that fulfills your photography needs. Just a thought.
matt.
Small, light, mix of wide and fast. Carrying lenses larger than these is not ideal. cv 35/1.2 is great - but not for traveling. They also have the added bonus of not being noticeable, super expensive or hard to replace. I wouldn't go longer than 40mm, mainly due to the fact you're carrying DSLR.
If you're carrying one lens, I second it being a 28mm. There are more than a few good ones out there, mine being a cv 28/1.9.
On another note, I was wondering what is meant by "traveling". If you're going from hotel to tour bus to guided tour to prepaid dinner - you could get away with bring all your gear with little worry of weight or safety. On the other hand, if you're walking through rougher places unguided with one or less traveling companions and your worries extend past your gear to where you're sleeping tonight and carrying all your belongings x number of miles - then you might want to look at the lightest possible setup that fulfills your photography needs. Just a thought.
matt.
thinkfloyd
Flippy Nose
Travelling meaning the latter part of what you said... rough parts where concern for gear safety and weight is a factor... your setup looks a good idea... i'm thinking maybe 21 and 40/1.4... a mix of wide and fast too...hmmm... thanks!
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