DavidC
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I've gravitated to a Leica IIIa with Summar lens for casual shoots but after lugging it all day still feel the oufit could be lightened with a lighter lens. Any suggestions?
Godfrey
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You could save three ounces, approx, by switching from the Summar 5.0cm f/2 to an Elmar 5.0cm f/3.5. When I am carrying the IIIc bandolier style, I often forget its there. But it's still a dense little mechanical thing.
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raydm6
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Sounds like you may need to move to a fixed 3rd-party lens (non-retractable with less elements) where the center of gravity (CoG) is closer to the camera body?
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Retro-Grouch
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Get an RB67, carry it around for a week, and then you'll appreciate what a featherweight the Barnack is. Plus, you'll get jacked! 
Ororaro
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Leica II with elmar… unbeatable and seemless
~177 grams vs about ~111 grams for a collapsible Elmar. (As measured by Ken Rockwell.)
66g is the weight of about three rolls of film.
Is that really that much to ‘lug?’
66g is the weight of about three rolls of film.
Is that really that much to ‘lug?’
raydm6
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I have one (and the hand grip)! You’re right!Get an RB67, carry it around for a week, and then you'll appreciate what a featherweight the Barnack is. Plus, you'll get jacked!
Size comparison w/the Barnack: 😁
Retro-Grouch
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What, no neck strap?
hap
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I'm still waiting for a reasonable priced MS Optics Aporia 24. fortunately, I'm sort of patient.
shawn
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The Mamiya is a nice mid-sized option.....
Retro-Grouch
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I guess, compared to your Fuji behemoth!The Mamiya is a nice mid-sized option.....
Richard G
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Godfrey is right: the IIIs are very dense. They’re made for the Elmar 50 3.5. Agree on the Leica II. No strap lugs. Very small and light.
Retro-Grouch
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shawn
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Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Summar is already light f2 lens. If you don't need f2, you could get Elmar f3.5. Or Industar-10.
But if weight is the problem. New Rollei 35 AF is 242 grams.
But if weight is the problem. New Rollei 35 AF is 242 grams.
Ko.Fe.
Lenses 35/21 Gears 46/20
Snapshot Skopar. 25/4.
Retro-Grouch
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I think I can guess how that poor Barnack feels...For scale... there is a Barnack in this picture.....
shawn
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Pretty much!
It actually isn't touching it.. but just barely.
It actually isn't touching it.. but just barely.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Um, I have one...
The MS-Optics Aporia 24mm is an M-bayonet lens. It would be difficult to convert it to LTM! LTM mount registration is ~28mm, M-bayonet is ~29mm: this is why you can fit a 1mm thick mount adapter to put LTM on M-bayonet. The Aporia 24mm lens mount is so thin there's not much metal that would allow you to remove the M-bayonet and then add an LTM thread, like there would be on most other lenses.
I'd thought about that as a solution, but unless you can get them to issue a version of the lens with an LTM mount, it's likely not practical. Of course, it also means your IIIa would have a 24mm wide angle lens, and you'll need a 24mm viewfinder for framing.
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DavidC
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I like the one about the 25/4 skopar. Hope one of Artisans group will come up with a ltm 28mm that is light and small in the future.