DominikDUK
Well-known
By all accounts, while he is sometimes identified as gay, Andy Warhol remained celibate throughout his life. Where did you get the idea he had lovers?
"Everything is sexual to Andy without the sex act actually taking place," writer Charles Henri Ford says. "He doesn't like to take his pants off or for anybody to touch him." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/artinfo/andy-warhol-8-surprising_b_645141.html
Althoug I admit my comment was over the top Andy Warhol was far from asexual to quote Gay Wiki: Many people think of Warhol as "asexual" and merely a "voyeur", but these notions have been debunked by biographers (such as Victor Bockris), explored by other members of the factory scene such as Bob Colacello (in his book Holy Terror: Andy Warhol Close Up), and by scholars like art historian Richard Meyer (in his book Outlaw Representation). http://gaycelebrities.wikia.com/wiki/Andy_Warhol
Dralowid
Michael
The pinch of salt required to be taken with this thread is about the size of Jupiter...
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Could well be. And, of course, there's no guarantee that even a roughly contemporary magazine report was accurate. Even so, I'll keep an eye out for the original article. And in the absence of a reference I'd still query the assertion that Hitler personally disliked 35mm cameras.That sounds unlikely. The early thirties mark the breakthrough of the Makina (and Miroflex, and other "small format" 6x9 press cameras), which replaced the 9x12 and 10x15 SLRs and strut folders common in the twenties. And between the Makina and Leica age there would be the Rolleiflex age, which lasted into the fifties...
Besides, the Nazis were subject to many contradictory lobby groups out of the German industry, and accordingly lousy at standardisation (the resultant mess of arms systems is generally considered one of the reasons for their eventual military failure).
I suspect that setting up a official photo agency for the 1936 Olympics which promoted ultra-modern technologies, like fast superteles (Contax with "Olympia" 180/2.8 Sonnar) and "Hellschreiber" photo wire transmission stations, may have been overblown by later authors into a obligatory use of the same. In reality that was a showcase system - much like TV, which also was on demonstration at the same event, it did not become a everyday reality until after the war.
Cheers,
R.
sevo
Fokutorendaburando
Caravaggio was a murderer, so were Lully and Moliere the later ones enjoyed killing homeless people.
Caravaggio was involved in one lethal duel, and exiled. Not murder by concepts of the age, most noblemen of the age had a longer and more bloody trail, but he appears to have been a tough guy by (usually gentle) painter's standards.
Lully accidentally killed himself by injuring his toe and refusing medical help - the only murder he is known for. And Moliere is not known to have killed anybody. He had the tabloid scandal of the period by marrying what some suspected to be his long-time lover's daughter (by all written accounts she appears to have been a younger orphaned sister) when she was eighteen and he was forty. But that puts him in a league with Woody Allen - bad taste but perfectly legal...
Roger Hicks
Veteran
As evidenced by his behaviour in Malta (which was where, as a boy, I first encountered his work). And, "duel" and "noblemen" may be a bit of an exaggeration, as anyone who bothers to Google him will find oit. "Inveterate brawler and hothead" might be more accurate. Quite apart from the probable lead poisoning.Caravaggio was involved in one lethal duel, and exiled. Not murder by concepts of the age, most noblemen of the age had a longer and more bloody trail, but he appears to have been a tough guy by (usually gentle) painter's standards. . .
Cheers,
R.
Jamie123
Veteran
I'm surprised nobody has brought up Woody Allen and his wife/daughter 
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Post 85. Three quarters of an hour before yours.I'm surprised nobody has brought up Woody Allen and his wife/daughter![]()
Cheers,
R.
Highway 61
Revisited
HCB didn't like Caravaggio at all, and he clearly explained why (which is quite rare when someone don't like this or that).As evidenced by his behaviour in Malta (which was where, as a boy, I first encountered his work). And, "duel" and "noblemen" may be a bit of an exaggeration, as anyone who bothers to Google him will find oit. "Inveterate brawler and hothead" might be more accurate. Quite apart from the probable lead poisoning.
Cheers,
R.
At some point of his tremendous brawler's life Caravaggio was protected (and probably saved from death) by Philippe de Béthune, brother of Sully, prime minister of French king Henri IV. As a result (gift to his protector) there are now two paintings which everything (history, markings, recent serious scientific expertises) tells to be genuine Caravaggio's hanging in the Saint-Antoine church in Loches, near Tours (dedicated automated and highly controlled exhibition room, aside the main church hall). Worth the visit if you're in this area one of these days.
DominikDUK
Well-known
Caravaggio was involved in one lethal duel, and exiled. Not murder by concepts of the age, most noblemen of the age had a longer and more bloody trail, but he appears to have been a tough guy by (usually gentle) painter's standards.
Lully accidentally killed himself by injuring his toe and refusing medical help - the only murder he is known for. And Moliere is not known to have killed anybody. He had the tabloid scandal of the period by marrying what some suspected to be his long-time lover's daughter (by all written accounts she appears to have been a younger orphaned sister) when she was eighteen and he was forty. But that puts him in a league with Woody Allen - bad taste but perfectly legal...
Lully was suspected of killing Robert Cambert, killing Vagrants was acceptable as well. Caravaggio's duel was more of a castration attempt according to some sources and not really a duel.
But that wasn't my point my point was that many Artist were less than perfect human beings and still created great art that was enjoyed by many.
One of the most famous American authors (Poe) was a pedo by todays standards he married his 13 year old cousin Virginia. Louis Carrol is considered by some people a pedophile. The Prophet Mohammed would be considered a pedo as well. Would I stop reading Poe, Carroll or stop accepting Islam no way
tunalegs
Pretended Artist
I'm surprised nobody has brought up Woody Allen and his wife/daughter![]()
Woody Allen has done worse things than marry the adopted daughter of his ex-girlfriend, like make some stunningly awful movies.
Besides they're still married and apparently happy. I think some people are just envious. :angel:
While we talking about terrible things famous people have done and gotten away with, didn't William Burroughs shoot his girlfriend in the face at point blank range while drunk, and then claim it was an accident?
ChrisLivsey
Veteran
This is all very interesting, well some of it is
, but what lens is on the camera? :angel:
NeeZee
Well-known
Maybe after 4 pages it's time for a summary of the findings so far - just so new readers save some time:
polanski likes old leicas and young chicks, warhol forced his gay asexuality on everyone and hitler was a leica basher.
polanski likes old leicas and young chicks, warhol forced his gay asexuality on everyone and hitler was a leica basher.
DominikDUK
Well-known
Maybe after 4 pages it's time for a summary of the findings so far - just so new readers save some time:
polanski likes old leicas and young chicks, warhol forced his gay asexuality on everyone and hitler was a leica basher.
Great summary
Highway 61
Revisited
This is all very interesting, well some of it is, but what lens is on the camera? :angel:
Very likely a Summitar 5cm f:2
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Good Lord! I live little over an hour from Loches and I didn't know that. Although I'm not a big enough Caravaggio fan to go far out of my way (Malta again), Loches is where I get my BMW R100RS serviced, so I'll give it a try. Thanks!HCB didn't like Caravaggio at all, and he clearly explained why (which is quite rare when someone don't like this or that).
At some point of his tremendous brawler's life Caravaggio was protected (and probably saved from death) by Philippe de Béthune, brother of Sully, prime minister of French king Henri IV. As a result (gift to his protector) there are now two paintings which everything (history, markings, recent serious scientific expertises) tells to be genuine Caravaggio's hanging in the Saint-Antoine church in Loches, near Tours (dedicated automated and highly controlled exhibition room, aside the main church hall). Worth the visit if you're in this area one of these days.
Cheers,
R.
ChrisLivsey
Veteran
Very likely a Summitar 5cm f:2![]()
Thank you for assisting my attempt, which I fear is doomed to fail, to get the thread back on topic
Sparrow
Veteran
The pinch of salt required to be taken with this thread is about the size of Jupiter...
... Jupiter eh? now he really couldn't keep it in his trousers
frank-grumman
Well-known
Hehe, I read the title too quickly, thought it read:
Roman Polanski screws with a shootmount Leica LOLOLOLOL
Roman Polanski screws with a shootmount Leica LOLOLOLOL
Al Patterson
Ferroequinologist
I'm surprised nobody has brought up Woody Allen and his wife/daughter![]()
Not applicable here as no charges are pending. And wasn't she an adopted daughter? Still too far out for many, but lessens the creepiness factor somewhat...
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
It was Switzerland who arrested him, then set him free.
I suppose, if Pinochet gets off scot free, what Polanski did was of a much lesser scale.
Ftr, I support Jane Fonda for her courage in speaking out against the appalling US involvement in Vietnam. But I don't rate her acting.
Another vote for Barbarella ... acting?
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