Sad day for me - my M9 died

I never got a cappucino at the Wetzlar Leica store when I bought a CL* and an SL2. The proper ones with film not those digital, fast depreciating monsters. Not even a secondhand one!

*Mind you, I did make a relatively rapid 75% profit selling that within two months, so I don't feel too bad about the absent coffee on that one...
 
CharlesDAMorgan said:
I never got a cappucino at the Wetzlar Leica store when I bought a CL* and an SL2. The proper ones with film not those digital, fast depreciating monsters. Not even a secondhand one!

*Mind you, I did make a relatively rapid 75% profit selling that within two months, so I don't feel too bad about the absent coffee on that one...
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The Leica Store in Mayfair make delicious cappuccinos.

And they shared with me a very interesting anecdote about Seal (the singer and Leica "ambassador")
 
Rob-F said:
I prefer RPN, too. I'm stocked up: I have an HP-11, two HP 41c, and another HP I can't remember the number of. I keep meaning to add an HP-12.
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The HP-12 is plentiful. Get the older one with the three button cells, not the new inferior slow version that takes a coin cell. The latter is slower when doing financial calcs. There are lots on the market because it seems that they were required for people taking some courses.

After RPN, everything else is laborious. I'm showing my age. Our first was an HP-97. The older ones with card readers became unusable because the rubbery mechanism perished, including the HP-41 card reader.
 
zuiko85 said:
I’m telling ya folks, what Leica needs is a ‘digital conversion kit’ for their film M’s.
I mean, after all the back and pressure plate is removeable. Why couldn’t some clever designers (doesn’t even have to be Leica) come up with a digital sensor, perhaps a little smaller than full frame, say 16X24mm that can clip on where the film/pressure plate was and then house the rest of the electronics and battery in a thicker base plate. A ‘soft release’ screwed into .the shutter button would signal the digital to turn on just before the shutter is released. Maybe they could make both color band monochrome sensors to interchange.
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Already discussed and offered here:

https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171144
 
I'm a little late in this discussion (I'm guessing the OP has heard from Leica by now), but I have to add -

Although I loved the colors it produced, there was more about the M9 I disliked than I liked; therefore, I would not spend the kind of money being discussed here on an M9. The M9 colors can be approximated with either M10 or M240 with a little post processing. Even though I do admit I liked the out-of-camera M9 colors better, the M10 counters with much better dynamic range. And, as a long-time Leica-M user the M10 film-like body (thickness and weight) makes it really fun to use. B&W conversions from RAW files (which I do often) are fabulous from either the M10 or M240.

Although this is very subjective I believe the M240 is a much better camera when compared to the M9. But, for me, the M10-P was the camera I was always waiting for!

Having said all that, in my experience, the files produced between the M-P 240 and M10-P have been pretty much indistinguishable. If you're on a budget, a BP M240 can be had for about the same price as an M9. I'd guess after using an M240 (or M-P 240) for awhile, you'll not miss the M9 much.
 
The only thing I miss about my M9 vs M is the greater highlight recoverability.
Everything else is so much better on the M.
 
Well, that's put me off ever buying any new Digital Leica. I knew they depreciated, but not that much.

It's just like buying a new top end Benz. I'll stick to classics, no-one makes them any more so no production line of new stuff to undermine value...
 
CharlesDAMorgan said:
Well, that's put me off ever buying any new Digital Leica. I knew they depreciated, but not that much.

It's just like buying a new top end Benz. I'll stick to classics, no-one makes them any more so no production line of new stuff to undermine value...
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Honestly I'm surprised at how well they keep their value. Good M9s are still selling $2590-3200. M240 $2200-3500. M8 $12-1900. For the M8 and M9, that's astonishing. There is no other digital that held value like that from when they were released. I paid $3200 for my m240 3.5 years ago. People are still getting close to that, which is nuts.
 
CharlesDAMorgan said:
Well, that's put me off ever buying any new Digital Leica. I knew they depreciated, but not that much.

It's just like buying a new top end Benz. I'll stick to classics, no-one makes them any more so no production line of new stuff to undermine value...
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On the contrary it`s good news as long as you don`t buy new and I never do.
Buy at a price you can afford to lose .
My film M`s are appreciating , true but I don`t look at cameras as an investment.
Certainly not digital cameras .
 
raid said:
This is the price for having a slim looking camera that resembles a film camera while DSLRs look very bulky. Is this the main reason for Leica dying earlier?
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Being able to use M/LTM lenses and with a 24 x 36mm sensor while keeping the camera dimensions similar to the M6 accounted for most of the digital Leica M's short term and long term problems.

Another factor is Leica's inexperience with digital electronics during approximately 2004 through 2011.

With the Type 240 (2012), Leica resolved the engineering issues that bedeviled the M8 and M9 models.

In my view the ~seven years between the M8/M9 and the Type 240 indicate the technical difficulties encountered with M/LTM lenses, a 24 X 36mm sensor and retaining the M3-M7 body haptics.

Note that Leica T, TL, TL2, CL and Leica SL APS-C digital cameras (~2013) are as reliable as other brands.
 
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