SP & S36 Beware

[ChrisLivsey]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....4876660&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:GB:3160#shpCntId

Just a warning that rather obviously zero🙄 feedback but Airdrie, given as address, is in Scotland not Lancashire.

 

[Sejanus.Aelianus]

I always used to think that it took a long time to get there from Glasgow. 😀

 

[archive59]

Maybe not in Lancashire, but Airdrie is in Lanarkshire, Scotland so it could just be a typing/autocorrect mistake.

 

[ChrisLivsey]

Maybe not in Lancashire, but Airdrie is in Lanarkshire, Scotland so it could just be a typing/autocorrect mistake.

It could be, but e-bay have now taken it down.

 

[James24]

It looked genuine to me at first glance. But the zero feedback threw up the red flags.

Where did the 'seller' get the photos from? Chances are, someone here has seen them before either on a genuine ebay sale or elsewhere?

 

[ChrisLivsey]

I copied a jpeg, it had this file name: $(KGrHqEOKpQE7I)Sq07BBS,l-DGtN!~~60_14

The bells were pealing by then 🙄

There are reverse image search engines but I had no joy.

 

[James24]

By strange coincidence another SP with S36 has been listed on UK ebay. I believe the photos are different to the previous ones. I've saved these to my computer should they disappear.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nikon-SP-Black-Paint-Rangefinder-/221307366947?

 

[ChrisLivsey]

The seller replied promptly to my question and agreed to collection (for cash 😀 ) as I live within an hour of Fleetwood.
The pictures do not reverse search.
I fear that given the variety of accessories with the camera never mind the S36 it will be well out of my range IF (big if) the zero feedback doesn't scare everyone off. The coincidence is unusual to say the least with the previous listing. I just hope it goes high enough so I can sit out with a clear conscience.

 

[farlymac]

That would be a hard one to pass up. Looks like a long-stored set would.

PF

 

[Jan Van Laethem]

That would be a hard one to pass up. Looks like a long-stored set would.

PF

It just sold for £2,002.66. I was expecting some last second bidding, but none came through.

 

[ChrisLivsey]

It looks like the zero feedback killed it. Let's wait for the feedback.

 

[Jan Van Laethem]

It looks like the zero feedback killed it. Let's wait for the feedback.

How much do you think it was worth ?

Even with the zero feedback, there were several bidders who started bidding and drove up the price several days before the end of the auction. I always wonder why you would want to do that.

 

[ChrisLivsey]

Well that depends 😀

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-SP-bl...089220121?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item35cdfdaa19

$20,000 rounded

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-SP-bl...062404832?pt=Film_Cameras&hash=item35cc647ee0

$7,000 rounded

Take your pick 😀

On its own: SP BP at Westlich current auction estimate Euros 2,500 - 3,000

http://www.westlicht-auction.com/fileadmin/kataloge/cameraauction24.pdf

Previously

Westlicht 14th 2008 Motor only 4,700
Same 20th 2011 Motor only 2,800

Your question is what is it worth, to me or to collectors generally, if they have one - less, if they want one - more? How big is that market?
I would not use an S36, parts difficult, usually heavily worn, really for collectors. I am a shooter so the camera max £2,000, not really after the lenses, no 35mm f1.8 !!
I would have thought if the seller had good feedback and a camera track record it would have gone to £5,000.

If this was genuine, and it may well be so I am not casting accusations at all, I would have talked to Grays of Westminster

http://www.graysofwestminster.co.uk/products/secondhand.php?cat1=8&pg=1

Then the auctioneers, I would never have never tried ebay and never not all with a zero feedback account.
As a buyer, given the ebay backup I could have risked £2,000. I didn't bid as I was convinced when it hit that a few days before ending it was going to fly.

That the seller went this route is the puzzle, the market value has not been realised. IMHO
I just wonder what he told/paid the lady he bought it off " I bought the SP Camera from a lady who said that this camera set belonged to her father who put them away for years. "

 

[Jan Van Laethem]

That the seller went this route is the puzzle, the market value has not been realised. IMHO

I just wonder what he told/paid the lady he bought it off " I bought the SP Camera from a lady who said that this camera set belonged to her father who put them away for years. "

It is more than likely that the lady he bought it from didn't have a clue about the potential value. It is also probable that the seller didn't realize how far it could have went if he had offered it somewhere outside Ebay.

I would have ventured to place a bid, but the zero feedback did nothing to inspire confidence.

 

[ChrisLivsey]

I would have ventured to place a bid, but the zero feedback did nothing to inspire confidence.

Same.
It will be interesting if this pops up somewhere else, the battery corrosion was quite distinctive.

 

[ChrisLivsey]

It looks like the zero feedback killed it. Let's wait for the feedback.

About three weeks on and no feedback left yet !!