Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear George,
First, I travel a lot, and I do in fact visit major cities. And I drive to (and through) them, or go by motorcycle. Except Paris, where I sometimes take the train.
Second, don't be ridiculous. If you can't spot that for a joke, no wonder people stop you. You must have aggression oozing from every pore. It's not even racist. How do you tell where someone is from, unless (perhaps) they are talking loudly in English or wearing Bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt?
Third, the last time I was hassled by the police was in Clacton, a couple of years ago, and the time before that was in Minnis Bay. Not exactly 'hot quarters of major cities.' Besides which, 'major cities' does not give the police any extra powers.
Once in Paris a policeman strolled over, waiting until after I had taken my picture, to point out that I really should have a tripod permit. That's it for Paris (since 1972).
Cheers,
R.
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wgerrard
Veteran
Well, you didn't actually ignore them, but answered their questions. And that seems to me a rational approach to take with the real police. Answer the questions, don't provoke them, don't resist them, and don't give them any reason to levy a charge unrelated to photography. If you are detained, even under the UK terror acts, you want it to be explicitly for taking pictures because that is more likely to generate pro-photographer media coverage and potentially provide a better test case in court.
mark-b
Well-known
Sheezits, might as well register the camera and a waiting period to cool off before picking it up just like with firearms!
George9
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Stop and Account and under Section 44
Stop and Account and under Section 44
New news from AP.
Well...it's not been tried before.
Here's one that George Carlin would love: "front-line uniform staff"
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Stop and Account and under Section 44
New news from AP.
Well...it's not been tried before.
Here's one that George Carlin would love: "front-line uniform staff"
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outfitter
Well-known
You folks across the pond need to get yourself a written constitution - the Queen in Parliament is sovereign stuff just leaves you no recourse. Of course here in the land of the free and the brave, after 9/11 even a low level park employee stopped me from photographing my grandson feeding the ducks in front of the Croton Reservoir! At least I knew she had no right and I had recourse, in the UK there is no recourse from an act of Parliament (save the election polls).
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Not exactly. The Sovereign is 'beneath God and the law' and the problem in the cases discussed above is not so much the Act of Parliament as the capricious enforcement thereof.
There have also been cases in the UK of the Human Rights Act 'trumping' Acts of Paliament and (still more frequently) Orders in Council. Quite honestly, having lived in the UK, USA and France, the big difference is the common sense or otherwise of those who enforce the law, and the degree of hysteria of the people.
Cheers,
R.
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Common Purpose, a criminal organisation that abuses government posts for gain
Common Purpose, a criminal organisation that abuses government posts for gain
Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 30,000 graduate members and enormous power, Common Purpose (CP) is largely unknown to the general public.
It recruits and trains its leaders to work "beyond authority," to abuse their posts and serve Common Purpose, instead of their own departments, which they then undermine. Its members control the NHS, where it wastes £60 billion, much of it going into private pockets; and controls most of Britains 8,500 quangos which spend £167 billion annually, according to the Cabinet Office. Most of that is waste.
Business rates and tax go up, services go down, the difference is spent on yet more CP quangos. CP is identifying leaders in all levels of British government to assume power when its nation is replaced by the European Union, in what they call “the post democratic era.” They are learning to rule without democracy, and will bring the EU police state home to every one of them.
Common Purpose is a criminal organisation that enables fraud to be committed across these government departments to reward pro European local politicians. Corrupt deals are enabled that put property or cash into their pockets by embezzling public assets.
It has members in the NHS, BBC, the police, the legal profession, the church, many of Britain’s 8,500 quangos, local councils, schools, social services, the Civil Service, government ministries, Parliament, and it controls many RDA's (Regional Development Agencies).
Here an interesting interview with Brian Gerrish on EM TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYUXRxgDY4
Common Purpose, a criminal organisation that abuses government posts for gain
Although it has 80,000 trainees in 36 cities, 30,000 graduate members and enormous power, Common Purpose (CP) is largely unknown to the general public.
It recruits and trains its leaders to work "beyond authority," to abuse their posts and serve Common Purpose, instead of their own departments, which they then undermine. Its members control the NHS, where it wastes £60 billion, much of it going into private pockets; and controls most of Britains 8,500 quangos which spend £167 billion annually, according to the Cabinet Office. Most of that is waste.
Business rates and tax go up, services go down, the difference is spent on yet more CP quangos. CP is identifying leaders in all levels of British government to assume power when its nation is replaced by the European Union, in what they call “the post democratic era.” They are learning to rule without democracy, and will bring the EU police state home to every one of them.
Common Purpose is a criminal organisation that enables fraud to be committed across these government departments to reward pro European local politicians. Corrupt deals are enabled that put property or cash into their pockets by embezzling public assets.
It has members in the NHS, BBC, the police, the legal profession, the church, many of Britain’s 8,500 quangos, local councils, schools, social services, the Civil Service, government ministries, Parliament, and it controls many RDA's (Regional Development Agencies).
Here an interesting interview with Brian Gerrish on EM TV:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxYUXRxgDY4
Nikkor AIS
Nikkor AIS
The whole idea of "having" to carry idea somewhat sticks in my crawl. In Canada we have the right to be free from this type of gestapo type of "paper please". Im glad to live in a country that still respects the rights and freedoms of the individual over the states paranoia. In Canada we have a the document of "Rights and Freedom's" which insure us that are rights and freedom's can't be rolled over by the government.
Gregory
Gregory
Kevin
Rainbow Bridge
Almost forgot about Gerrish's 'State of the Nation' lecture, a must see for all concerned citizens, both in the UK and beyond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Pvs-pgbic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58Pvs-pgbic
Florian1234
it's just hide and seek
If it was not said before: Could anybody show this to her royal majesty? Maybe that would help!
firruddo
Newbie
Thanhks for shaing:
It recruits and trains its leaders to work "beyond authority," to abuse their posts and serve Common Purpose, instead of their own departments, which they then undermine. Its members control the NHS, where it wastes £60 billion, much of it going into private pockets; and controls most of Britains 8,500 quangos which spend £167 billion annually, according to the Cabinet Office. Most of that is waste.
It recruits and trains its leaders to work "beyond authority," to abuse their posts and serve Common Purpose, instead of their own departments, which they then undermine. Its members control the NHS, where it wastes £60 billion, much of it going into private pockets; and controls most of Britains 8,500 quangos which spend £167 billion annually, according to the Cabinet Office. Most of that is waste.
Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Kevin,
How many members have you personally known? Did they try to recruit you, or what? Where are their training schools? How do they recognize one another? A secret handshake?
Cheers,
R.