What did you find to be better than expected?

Robert Lai

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We've had several posts around here with complaints of things not working as they were expected to. I'd like to contribute some positive experiences to RFF. So, here are some things I picked up recently which performed better than I thought they would. Feel free to contribute your findings.

Cosina Voigtlander Bessa R. You and I have read all of the internet negativity. Plastic top and bottom, flimsy, squeaky winding, RF that easily knocks out of alignment, etc.

I do admit that I'm spoiled by years of using a Nikon F3, and recently a Leica M7, to having smooth - I do mean smooooth winding and shutter firing. But, the F3 with MD4 is increasingly too heavy for my aging atrophic muscles, and the M7 is just too expensive to take out anywhere. So, I saw DEZ's Bessa R for sale one month ago. Since I happened to be in Toronto, I met DEZ personally and bought his Bessa R. DEZ didn't have a body cap, so he added a FED 50 3.5 lens. He also contributed a roll of film for me.

The camera is indeed very light, but it feels solid enough. Winding is smooth, and it didn't squeak. The VF is bright and crisp - virtually equal to my M7, and better than any LTM Leica or my Canon 7s. The shutter sound is between that of the M7 and the F3 in loudness. No, it doesn't sound like a metal garage door being crashed down either. I love the simple, easily seen meter readout.

I had held a Nikon FM10 years ago, and at that time I thought "what a piece of junk" in comparison to my F3. I will say that the Bessa R in black looks elegant but unpretentious. Funny, as the Bessa R is basically the FM10 with the prism removed and a RF grafted on top. It's compact size and light weight have endeared itself to me, so that it's now my international travelling companion. It's been with me to Las Vegas, back home to Chicago, and now back to Toronto again. I can't say whether the FED lens is better than expected, as the film I had sent off to be developed and scanned has not come back before I left Chicago for Toronto. However, it looks to be a clean lens without internal haze. It collapses into the Bessa R without any dramatic scraping sounds, and it is very compact to carry when collapsed.

All in all, a very worthwhile deal for around $200.


Cosina Voigtlander 75mm f/2.5 LTM lens. This one I was reluctant to buy. 75mm seems to be the awkward "in between" focal length. Not 50, not 90 (or 85), just in between. Yet, when I found myself taking pictures of my kids, I found that 50 was too wide, and 90 was too tight. So, I embraced the 75 in silver chrome. Mine works great right out of the box. The RF is right on - no need to send to DAG for adjustment. Even wide open it is sharp. The bokeh is nice and smooth. Stop down, and the depth of field increases. Sharpness may increase a bit more, but I'm not sure, as I don't often stop this lens down much. It is indeed a great portrait lens, on par with my Nikon 105 2.5 (also too tele for my needs at present), with compact size and great rendition. Contrast is moderate, without being excessive. That was my complaint with CV lenses before, such as the 35 2.5 - TOO contrasty. Another item that was better than expected.

Leica 28 2.8 Elmarit ASPH. OK, this is not a surprise to anyone who owns this lens, but this is an awesome lens. It is tiny, but the rendition is incredible. The sharpest 28mm lens I've ever used. Again, not overwhelming contrast, but just right in moderation. I was reluctant to buy it, as I already had the 35mm f/2 Summicron ASPH. But the 35mm Summicron in silver chrome is a heavy beast. This tiny light weight 28mm is just the opposite. So small and tiny! Just right for my aging atrophic wimpy muscles. The focal length differences are not that great. Since I already have a Summaron 35 f/2.8 for those days when I want a 35mm, I've decided to put my Summicron ASPH up for sale.

Since I'm away from home, I don't have the ability to photograph any of these items for the requisite porn shots of gear. However, if you have equipment that works far better than you thought it would, why not add to this post?
 
Bessa L with the 15 and 25 lenses plus their finders. Also the Nikon D5100, a boring little camera. Stick on the 18~55 VR or the 55~200 VR and it will take sharp, well focused images with the right density and colour balance every single time. Does nice movies, too.

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Since this is in the Cosina thread, I'll say that I always loved the R and the 35 Skopar. The shutter might not be smooth, but the film advance sure is. Maybe I was lucky.

As for SLRs- the Canon EOS 7. sturdy enough build, light, and did everything I wanted. Loved the handling.
And for digital? the X100. I bought one sort of at random from one of those Queens camera stores of questionable repute, and absolutely and completely fell in love.
 
It doesn't have to be a Voigtlander product

It doesn't have to be a Voigtlander product

I put this post in the CV section, only because I was thinking of my Bessa R and CV 75 lens. However, the item that performs BTE (better than expected) can be virtually anything.

Expired Fuji films. Fuji films somehow seem to last forever. I've shot film expired over 1 decade with minimal color shift. "Recently" expired (such as within the last 5 years) film can be shot without any worries. This has worked fine, even with their ISO 800 films. Of course, this is so long as the film has not been inside a car trunk exposed to the blazing sun in Death Valley for a month or so.

Recently expired Kodak films (E100G comes to mind) gives a magenta cast.
 
The original Canonflex. Much has been written on what a failure this camera was in the marketplace and how the Nikon F (introduced at about the same time) just blew it away. What hasn't been written is what an incredibly high-quality camera this is. Just exquisite build quality. And while the bottom-wind is an acquired taste, it actually works quite well in real life. It's a camera I love to use, when i'm in the mood.

Jim B.
 
CV Bessa R2a

I find to be a sturdy and reliable tool.

Negative comments on certain cameras/lenses are a product of people justifying their large investments on certain high end brands.
 
Good thread !

Because I am such a skeptic, lots of things have been better than expected, but I'll clip off the top few for the moment (in reverse chronological order)

Nikkor 28mm/f2.8 AIS lens - on my D5100, I love this combination !

The external little flash for the Fuji X100 ( the EF20 ) - bounce it, diffuse it, it works just great.

Panasonic LX3 - have had this maybe 4 years - great stuff comes out of this camera (@ ISO 80 and 100). My 3 biggest (12X18") and most popular prints were from the LX3 - one print got into the Summer show at the local art museum 😛
 
I usually research my purchases carefully, so as not to be surprised, but occasionally something will work better than expected. What comes to mind are two Voigtlander lenses...

At the time I got my 50mm f/2.5 Skopar in 2004 it was in poor repute, said to be unsharp, soft. I got a good deal on a used one, so figured it would be worth a try. And it worked beautifully, with a pleasant character... and sharp. It's small for a 50, with 7 elements surprisingly complex for its modest speed.

I didn't really expect the Voigtlander Heliar Classic 75mm f/1.8 to be as crisp as it is, even at wider apertures. It surprised me, yes, on one of those high-end brand bodies. 🙂 I just figured on a fast lens at modest cost. Good reviews are one thing, so when it outperforms expectations then it's delightful. Besides, there's some interesting history in the optical design, very similar to the old Leitz 73mm f/1.9 Hektor, and an offshoot of the actual Heliar pattern.
 
Wynton Marsalis - Haydn Horn Concerto

Wynton Marsalis - Haydn Horn Concerto

When I was in college, I picked up a vinyl LP by Telefunken or Teldec (I can't remember completely), with Wynton Marsalis playing the Haydn Horn Concerto on one side, and the Mozart Horn Concerto on the other side. The LP cover was a bit beat up, so I didn't expect much.

When I played it, I was BLOWN AWAY! Wynton Marsalis is absolutely the BEST! It's such a shame that he no longer plays any classical music, confining himself to jazz. He was phenomenally good at both.

As for the LP itself, the Mozart side was scratched up, but the Haydn side was incredible. To this day, I've not heard a better rendition of this horn concerto than Marsalis'. I'm sure this has been reissued on CD by now. Seek this one out. There's a youtube video of him giving this performance also. I still have that LP by the way.
 
Better than expected?.......Hummm....I know:

Better than expected?.......Hummm....I know:

Well, I was extremely impressed and happy with the purchase of the Carl Zeiss C-Sonnar 50mm f1.5 ZM. I used to have on old lens on Pentax M42 mount and loved it. However, I read so many posts where they talk about a focus shift, etc., that I bought it with a grain of salt. As soon as i opened the box and tried it, EVERYTHING was so sharp from 1.5 through 16. I love the lens, and the bokeh is just out of this world. So, I am happy impressed with this much better than expected Sonnar.
 
Another vote for the R2a. Love that camera. Would pick it over a ZI.

And a nod to the much maligned CV 35 1.4. I gave up a splendid Summaron for it, so it had big shoes to fill, and the rendering of this tiny lens keeps surprising roll after roll.
 
1. Ricoh GR1s.
Read all the good things about it.

Waited, and finally found one at the price I can't pass up, and since the first roll went through it, it's been one of my favorite cameras of all times. The size and look of a P&S, with the performance of a professional camera equipped with a top-notch prime lens.

2. CV Ultron 35mm 1:1.7
Bought one for $275 including the LTM to M adapter. It's practically welded to my M4-P. Sharp at wide-open, it handled travel, temperature, and time extremely well. Until I can find a Summilux 35mm with the price that is not ridiculous (my standard, not yours), this lens is the only one I need.
 
Zeiss 50mm C-Sonnar: I agree!

Zeiss 50mm C-Sonnar: I agree!

I love the C-Sonnar also!
No distortion. Mine seems to be optimized for f/2, but it is still usable up close at f/1.5. The aperture control also serves as a zone of sharpness control. By that, I mean how much out of the center towards the periphery is sharp, not just depth of field. By about f/4, the entire field is as sharp as anything out there.

I gave up my late version Summicron 50 in LTM for this lens.

For the LTM cameras, I find that the Canon 50 1.4 does a very, very good job.
 
This picture, from my brother's Yashica-mat LM:

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No time to check exposure, and barely enough time to roughly focus and compose, with an unfamiliar camera. Got lucky.

Actually, all of the pictures from that scratched up old lens came out better than expected. I guess it take s a lot before you really notice much loss of I.Q.
 
The latest firmware update for the X-100 comes to mind also. The AF is finally usable in low light, and MF actually works!

Oh, and Focus Peaking.
 
The latest firmware update for the X-100 comes to mind also. The AF is finally usable in low light, and MF actually works!

Oh, and Focus Peaking.

Come to think of it, the fact that Fuji is not just fixing bugs, but actually improving things and adding new features is pretty swell.
 
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