what is going on?

[bigeye]

I think the original X100 thread went to 1500 posts in a week or so!

There was a lot of genuine interest in the X100 at release, though I wonder how much is stimulated by consumer products companies that are quite savvy with social media marketin? We know that it is part of most campaigns.

The X100 release a few years ago had a few threads here that didn't seem quite right. Beside the wild enthusiasm of the postings, their dates began 60 days ahead and ended the day of Fuji's release announcement. The guy never posted again.

- Charlie

 

[cidereye]

Agree also. I think the X series cameras are like improved, digital equivalents of the old Kyocera Contax G2 (X-Pro1) & Konica Hexar AF (X100). Those were niche cameras for folks who wanted many of the advantages of RFs, but couldn't afford/didn't want to pay Leica prices or wanted new features like autofocus. So while they have some of the advantages of both dSLRs & RFs, they also share some of the disadvantages of both, & as others have noted, they're not exactly cheap.

Based on my own experience & that of friends who tried & ditched the X-Pro1, I would say the lackluster, compared to a dSLR, AF is indeed the greatest hangup, especially since the alternative of the EVF is not quite there as far as providing a dSLR-like experience. I can make the X-Pro1 work for me (just like I can still work my G2), & will keep it as a backup for my 240, if or when it arrives, but it will never be my primary digital camera because of its pokey/erratic AF performance in low light, which is 90% of my digital shooting (same is true for my D700). If I shot digital a lot during the day, it would be perfectly suitable, but its AF doesn't fit my available darkness needs. Overall, I believe the type of photographers who are looking for a Leica alternative tend to be serious amateurs who are very picky about their equipment & are obviously willing to churn through gear in search of the right tool.

Aye, that's exactly how I view the X-Pro1 - A digital Contax G2.

I only had my X-Pro1 2 days and already it feels like an (improved) old friend. I even use the AF on the Fuji exactly the same way as I used to on my old G1 & G2 with single AF, focus on exact point wanted and recompose photo.

I still love the Leica M system and will never sell my M6 but with the Fuji X system I knew pretty much exactly what I was getting myself into from the outset. But as indicated maybe for many Leica M system users they would hate using a Fuji X.

 

[thegman]

There was a lot of genuine interest in the X100 at release, though I wonder how much is stimulated by consumer products companies that are quite savvy with social media marketin? We know that it is part of most campaigns.

The X100 release a few years ago had a few threads here that didn't seem quite right. Beside the wild enthusiasm of the postings, their dates began 60 days ahead and ended the day of Fuji's release announcement. The guy never posted again.

- Charlie

It's possible, but also I think consumers can churn themselves into a frenzy. Look at the Apple iPhone release(s), the last one was the 4s, which was much the same as the 4, but you'd see people queuing outside the store at night to get one.

Apple markets, yes, but I think also enthusiasts whip up excitement all by themselves too.

I do find it odd that photos from these cameras whip up people's GAS though. I mean, the X100, new Nikon one, DSLRs, Leica X2 etc all have APS-C sensors and will all make photos which look pretty much the same, so it's sort of like having a recording of a telephone conversation to whip up GAS for a phone, they're all basically the same in that regard.

 

[jsrockit]

I do find it odd that photos from these cameras whip up people's GAS though. I mean, the X100, new Nikon one, DSLRs, Leica X2 etc all have APS-C sensors and will all make photos which look pretty much the same, so it's sort of like having a recording of a telephone conversation to whip up GAS for a phone, they're all basically the same in that regard.

It depends on if you are immune to ergonomics. All of them are quite different in this regard.

 

[splitimageview]

Yes, Android and iPhones are all the same too, they all make phone calls.

 

[bigeye]

It's possible, but also I think consumers can churn themselves into a frenzy. Look at the Apple iPhone release(s), the last one was the 4s, which was much the same as the 4, but you'd see people queuing outside the store at night to get one.

Apple markets, yes, but I think also enthusiasts whip up excitement all by themselves too.

I do find it odd that photos from these cameras whip up people's GAS though. I mean, the X100, new Nikon one, DSLRs, Leica X2 etc all have APS-C sensors and will all make photos which look pretty much the same, so it's sort of like having a recording of a telephone conversation to whip up GAS for a phone, they're all basically the same in that regard.

Astroturfing wasn't necessary. Demand was there. But, it was a new, major direction for the company and it's a very tempting device for marketers.

Is there a bad camera from $400 up?

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[ChrisLivsey]

Is there a bad camera from $400 up?

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