What's coming on Dec 21?

[RJBender]

The final solution will be revealed on 01/18/06. Until then, you will find out a little more each week from our images. 🙁

Poor choice of words, yes.

R.J.

 

[RJBender]

If they change it, we can bet that the people at Zeiss are reading this thread. 😀


Carl Zeiss, if you're reading this thread, add another pastry to the website.

Keep your fingers crossed.

R.J.

 

[bobofish]

Well, as a Jew, maybe I should be careful about talking too much about these new lenses, or even buying one!

Maybe there's an anti-jew chemical involved with the coating process! 😛

Probablly either a simple Google translation, or a very inept intern translator.

Or maybe IG Farben, Daimler, and Zeiss are conspiring for another Reich? 😀

All in fun of course...what a very poor choice of words.

 

[RJBender]

RJ,

Yes, I was looking again at the site earlier today. Before this thread -how many folks really knew that Cosina made F-mount SLR lenses?

Very few.

The Cosina/Zeiss deal for the Ikon body was a first step. It's led to rebranding the Cosina M-mount lenses as Zeiss ZM.

Now, the next "shoe drops" and Cosina F-mounts are re-branded as Zeiss.

BTW: I have a couple of CV lenses for my Nikon S2 - they make very fine glass - although they don't generally have "fast" lenses.

Zeiss has picked a good partner to initiate its foray into SLR lenses. But, truth be told, with both the Ikon body and now the F-mount lenses they are "outsourcing their brand" via licensing.

If I were a shareholder of Zeiss I'd be thrilled. I suspect that the "true believers" of the Zeiss "zeitgieist" are less enamored.

Oh well, que sera, sera.....

Regards,
George

This is from their 2003/2004 financial statement, George.

In the future, we will place more emphasis
on faster growth. This is necessary to counteract
mounting global competition. We aim
to grow to a size that will allow us to achieve
market positions with which we can expand
our technological capabilities in the long
term. During the reporting year we successfully
strengthened some of our business
groups by means of acquisitions and new
partnerships. Further additions to our business
fields are in the pipeline.

To expand its leading technological position
in the competitive arena, the Carl Zeiss
Group once again increased its investments
in innovation. With a total of EUR 209 million
(last year EUR 190 million), spending on
research and development reached a record
high. This corresponds to 10 percent of revenues
and underlines the Group’s aspiration
to expand its technology leadership and turn
it into tangible market success. This is reflected
by the percentage of new products in
overall sales. In fiscal year 2003/04 the Carl
Zeiss Group generated roughly 43 % of its
revenue with products launched on the
market in the past three years. Examples of
the most important new products introduced
during the reporting period include immersion
lenses and an electron beam mask repair
device for semiconductor technology, the
OPMI Pentero® Surgical Microscope for neurosurgery
with digital visualization possibilities,
eyeglass lenses with the dirt-repellent and
easy-to-clean LotuTec® coating, and new
eyeglass lens fitting systems. The Industrial
Metrology Group launched its first measuring
machine for microsystems technology – the
Model F25. Other new products included optical
systems for rear projection TVs and the
Zeiss Ikon® camera featuring lenses in a new
performance category. With innovative
product ideas, the Research and Technology
division is systematically opening up new
business possibilities. In a structured new
business generation process, opportunities
are identified, and the most successful projects
are then accompanied and supported to
the point of product maturity.

There are currently no
pending litigations that could pose any substantial
threat to any area of the company or
to the company itself. Attacks on intellectual
property and patent protection can jeopardize
the technological lead and hence the
competitiveness of the Carl Zeiss Group. Carl
Zeiss is taking precautions against such risks
by implementing an active IP strategy.

Creative Inventors
The corporate Vision defines the company’s
aspirations: “Carl Zeiss will be regarded as
the most innovative company in its fields of
business.” During the past fiscal year, the Carl
Zeiss Group submitted 371 applications for
patents or registered designs – an increase of
eight percent over the previous year. The
continuously rising number of applications
underscores the company’s focus on further
increasing its innovative strength.

R.J.

 

[Mazurka]

Perhaps they were afraid if they use "Final answer" instead, a certain TV show could sue. 😀

 

[Sonnar Brian]

I just put a Zeiss Tessar on my Cosina SLR camera.

The other Millions of SLR photographers will just have to wait.

You just file the back of the lens down so the aperture actuating plate does not bang it.

And it has lots of aperture blades, nice Bokeh. It's a Preset.

and all chrome.

 

[leafy]

Who makes the new Zeiss Ikon?

Enough.

So would you call an iPod rebranded Taiwanese product?

 

[Mazurka]

I just put a Zeiss Tessar on my Cosina SLR camera.

The other Millions of SLR photographers will just have to wait.

I bet you aren't the first one. 😀

Some people use the C/Y 45mm on their Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 (made by Cosina, of course.) I'm sure there are others who shoot with Jena Tessars on their M42 Bessaflex, or via an adapter on the Canon T60 (again Cosina-made.)

No filing required for any of these combos. 😀

 

[Sonnar Brian]

It's the Jena Tessar on mine. The rear of the lens protrudes into the body of the 42mm thread mount lens. The filing is to keep the actuating mechanism on the camera from jamming. I'm probably not the first to put the Tessar on the Argus/Cosina STL1000, but I'll bet it's the only one that has been used with a Pentax 85mm F4.5 Ultra-Achromat.

 

[MP Guy]

I think thier ad campaign may flop with th echoice of words mentioned. I just sent them an email. Maybe they just overlooked it but its pretty poor.

 

[bmattock]

I bet you aren't the first one. 😀

Some people use the C/Y 45mm on their Yashica FX-3 Super 2000 (made by Cosina, of course.) I'm sure there are others who shoot with Jena Tessars on their M42 Bessaflex, or via an adapter on the Canon T60 (again Cosina-made.)

No filing required for any of these combos. 😀

I did and do. Nice silver CZJ 80mm f2.8 Tessar in M42 has been mounted on my Bessaflex TM and my Canon T60. Same for my CZJ 58mm f2 Biotar. Both T coated, but not T* coated, unfortunately. Well, and the Biotar won't fit on my Bessaflex TM, the 'shoulder' gets in the way of the aperture pin kicker thingy inside the camera and stops it from releasing the shutter. Oh yeah, and I've got a CZJ 135mm f3.5 Sonnar as well - much newer, that one.



Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

 

[Sonnar Brian]

Jorge,
That was the right thing to do. I'm sure their words lost something in the translation.

Bill: File the shoulder down on the Biotar. That is what I did 15 years ago with the 50mm F2.8 Tessar.

 

[bmattock]

Jorge,
That was the right thing to do. I'm sure their words lost something in the translation.

Bill: File the shoulder down on the Biotar. That is what I did 15 years ago with the 50mm F2.8 Tessar.

Well, I would think about filing it down, but that Biotar's shoulder is pretty dang huge! Plus, and this is the main reason, I can put the Biotar on my M42->Canon FD adapter and stick it on my Cosina-made Canon T60 - which gives me aperture-priority AE if I want it. I still have to stop down, but seeing as the Biotar has no M42 pin, I have to do that anyway. All I lose is my max 1/2000 shutter speed, which I'm pretty much ok with. Maybe if I happen to get another one someday...

Best Regards,

Bill Mattocks

 

[RJBender]

Good idea, Jorge. It's just past 5:00 AM now in Germany. Hopefully they will fix the problem this morning.

R.J.

 

[wlewisiii]

I think thier ad campaign may flop with th echoice of words mentioned. I just sent them an email. Maybe they just overlooked it but its pretty poor.

Good thing to do. In someways it feels like a bablefish German -> English translation (I used to speak a bit of German... alas, most has been lost along the way...) I use bablefish alot to get me in the ballpark where my memory can fix the worst of it.

I can still understand most of the Nena songs that were hits when I was there, does that count? :angel:

William

 

[RJBender]

Well, I just visited the German version of Zeiss's website and here's the announcement in German:

Die endgültige Auflösung erfolgt am 18.01.06.

Babel Fish says The final dissolution takes place

Ok, Google Die endgültige Auflösung and you get this
It doesn't look like it has anything to do with the Nazis.

Hey Volker (Socke), would you please wake up and translate this for us!! 😱 😛

R.J.

 

[brians]

R.J.--Perhaps a final disbandment? Cancellation?

Here's a german<->english dictionary translate on those two words.

http://dict.leo.org/?lp=ende&lang=d...ellToler=std&search=endg%FCltige++Aufl%F6sung

(Excuse my lack of German.)

 

[Huck Finn]

Even within Zeiss the block diagrams of Planars vary substantially - for example there have been two different 80 Planars for the Hasselblad and two different 75 Planars for the Rollei TLR's. The number of elements is the most obvious change in both cases.
Tom

Tom,

I tend to think of certain "families" of lens designs that Zeiss makes. In order to adapt a basic design to different focal lengths & different lens speeds, modifications have been made to the basic design. And then further modifications are made to achieve improved corrections for aberrations, etc. The further removed in time from the original design, the more modifications are in evidence.

Change in the number of elements does not in & of itself mean asubstantial change from the basic design. It has been done from the beginning. In 1931, Ludwig Bertele patented his new Sonnar design for Zeiss as an f/2 lens, consisting of 6 elements. In 1932, the very next year, he introduced a 7 element, f/1.5 Sonnar with a redesigned rear component to provide the correction for spherical aberrations required at the increased f/1.5 aperture.

Huck

 

[Socke]

RJ, I'm here!

"Lösung" is solution and "Auflösung" is a solution, too.

That's a bit tricky, "Lösung" is usuably used for the solution of an equation and "Auflösung" for the solution of a riddle. "Auflösung" is a bit more final than "Lösung", in a sense of the only correct solution if more than one is possible.

You can translate "Auflösung" as well as "Endlösung", which was the term coined especialy for the holocaust, to "final solution".

So "auflösen" means solving a riddle as well as making a solution by dissolving a solid substance in a liquid.

Edit:

In german we use -ung like in english -ing for the gerundium. As usual in german, there are exceptions ....

 

[Socke]

come to think of wording and political correctness, if one is so sensible he shouldn't use APX emulsions and Rodinal developer as Agfa once was part of IG-Farben which supplied the KZs with Zyklon B and "employed" slave labourers which were brought to work in Ford and Opel(GM) trucks and organized with the help of Hollerith (IBM) punch card computers. Don't forget Mercedes, Porsche and and and.

The Nazi history is everywhere here. When I drive to my office I cross the "Langemark Strasse" which was named after the WW1 battle at Langemark/Belgium. Of cause it was named so in the 1930s by you guess who :-(

I once got flamed on P.Net because I asked how somebody how he could make the connection from a picture of a bunch of used running shoes in a shop window after the New York marathon to Auschwitz.
Born in 1959 with a great aunt who was in Theresienstadt and a grandfather who spend most of 1937/38 in jail for his active membership in the SPD I sure could have done more to prevent WW2 and the holocaust :-(