conradyiu
closer
I own a Yashica GX and quite satisfied with it. But, I am wondering whether should I buy a Canon QL17 which has the same 40mm/1.7 lens.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Thanks in advance for your advice.
Yashica GX vs Canon QL17 GIII
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oftheherd
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I don't have a Yashica GX so I can't compare them for you. Yashica always had good lenses. So does the QL17 III. I think you will find it smaller to carry if that is an advantage to you. I don't know if the GX allows manual control. If so, the Canonet is no big advantage other than the size I would think.
conradyiu
closer
The GX does not have manual control. Perhaps QL17 is better in this area.
Could the QL17 shows the chosen aperture and shutter speed ? If under manual control, should I first check the EV before changed to manual?
Could the QL17 shows the chosen aperture and shutter speed ? If under manual control, should I first check the EV before changed to manual?
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ruben
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hi Conrad,
I am walking on eggs, since there are fans who swear by the GX. I own both cameras, and frankly speaking although the GX is quite nice looking, against the flat looking Canonet QL, I am quite desillusioned by the GX.
Everything with the GX is ok, but it is a relative step backwards compared to mom GSN. True it is smaller, but the shutter is louder, and the autoexposure is not the legendary one of the mom. Not better than the auto of the Canonet.
So in my opinion, while the GSN vs the Canonets could make a 'strategic' balance of forces, this is not the case whith the GX.
But one very serious practical advantage of the GX over the Canonets is that the chances to find any of them in fine condition are much more in favour of the GX. So in terms of price the real price of the Canonet QL GIII is the camera plus overhaul.
Now you are asking from a different perspective: I own a GX, should I buy a Canonet ? In my opinion you have a de-luxe tool, and you need a very specific reason of your own to buy another 'somewhat' similar. I don't think that you having the GX glass will be astonished by the Canonet glass.
Another consideration I would like to submit to you is your type of shooting. If you are very patient and take your time, you will make the most from the full manual controls of the Canonet. But for shutting on a rush you will end shutting in autoexposure only, due to the rings being rather small.
And at manual mode the Canonet meter is OFF.
But if you ask me perhaps a GSN, then definitely you will diversify your Yashica family.
Cheers,
Ruben
I am walking on eggs, since there are fans who swear by the GX. I own both cameras, and frankly speaking although the GX is quite nice looking, against the flat looking Canonet QL, I am quite desillusioned by the GX.
Everything with the GX is ok, but it is a relative step backwards compared to mom GSN. True it is smaller, but the shutter is louder, and the autoexposure is not the legendary one of the mom. Not better than the auto of the Canonet.
So in my opinion, while the GSN vs the Canonets could make a 'strategic' balance of forces, this is not the case whith the GX.
But one very serious practical advantage of the GX over the Canonets is that the chances to find any of them in fine condition are much more in favour of the GX. So in terms of price the real price of the Canonet QL GIII is the camera plus overhaul.
Now you are asking from a different perspective: I own a GX, should I buy a Canonet ? In my opinion you have a de-luxe tool, and you need a very specific reason of your own to buy another 'somewhat' similar. I don't think that you having the GX glass will be astonished by the Canonet glass.
Another consideration I would like to submit to you is your type of shooting. If you are very patient and take your time, you will make the most from the full manual controls of the Canonet. But for shutting on a rush you will end shutting in autoexposure only, due to the rings being rather small.
And at manual mode the Canonet meter is OFF.
But if you ask me perhaps a GSN, then definitely you will diversify your Yashica family.
Cheers,
Ruben
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shadowfox
Darkroom printing lives
Conrad, allow me to give you two very different suggestions:
1. Olympus 35 SP - manual control, f1.7 lens, the lens is as sharp as the Yashica Electro 35 series but with nicer bokeh
2. Kiev 4 (not 4AM) - Interchangeable lenses, Contax smoothness at a fraction of the price. A unique photography experience altogether.
Canonet GIII QL17? meh..., skip it.
1. Olympus 35 SP - manual control, f1.7 lens, the lens is as sharp as the Yashica Electro 35 series but with nicer bokeh
2. Kiev 4 (not 4AM) - Interchangeable lenses, Contax smoothness at a fraction of the price. A unique photography experience altogether.
Canonet GIII QL17? meh..., skip it.
conradyiu
closer
First, thanks for all of your advice.
Kiev seems far away from my consideration.
Olympus 35SP, it might be good but quite large and expensive.
I am patient when shooting and like manual control, so I consider to buy a QL17.
However, is GSN also a good option?
Kiev seems far away from my consideration.
Olympus 35SP, it might be good but quite large and expensive.
I am patient when shooting and like manual control, so I consider to buy a QL17.
However, is GSN also a good option?
airds
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jesse1dog
Light Catcher
Can't see what you are gaining by buying the Canonet!
Why not rethink what you are photographing and what you aren't.
The Yashica is a fair amount of camera to take around.
Are you missing pictures because you haven'y got your camera with you?
Why not have a camera in your pocket all the time?
Have you considered an Olympus XA?
Just trying to do a bit of lateral thinking!
j
Why not rethink what you are photographing and what you aren't.
The Yashica is a fair amount of camera to take around.
Are you missing pictures because you haven'y got your camera with you?
Why not have a camera in your pocket all the time?
Have you considered an Olympus XA?
Just trying to do a bit of lateral thinking!
j
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ruben
Guest
Hi Conrad,
The GSN is not an option instead of the Canonet QL GIII. In my message I tryied to say that you, already having a GX, do already own something parallel somehow to the Canonet, although lacking full manual override.
I explained that for full manual control the GIII is fully featured, with the exception of the light meter, that in manual mode doesn't operate.
But I also referred to the problem of the fully manual use of the canonet, saying that the controls are rather small. In case you have strong and thin fingers, you may be OK with the Canonet GIII. But if not, then you should go for a bigger camera than the GIII.
My proposal of the GSN was not in the range of full manual control. The GSN has the same type of features like your GX, but much better autoexposure and perhaps world record noiseless shutter.
I notice that you want a rather small camera with full manual controls. There are some 4 or 5 great cameras, but I repeat the contradiction between using these cameras for full manual mode and their small size.
The Olympus SP falls in a totally different cathegory of its own. It is bigger than your GX, but not so much a difference. Yet although being bigger a bit even than a Canonet, its controls are commonly stiff. So either your buy a high condition one, or send anyone to overhaul. The SPs are marketed at higher prices, higher even than the not cheap Yashica GX. Like the Canonets, no light meter usable in manual mode.
Now, what camera can offer you the size close to the GX and easy to manipulate manual controls ? I am not aware of. At least for the price range of up to 200 dollars.
It is only by compromising in the issue of camera size, that you can have excellent glass cameras, at low prices, with friendly user controls. One example is the Konica Auto S2. But like with all mentioned cameras here, full overhaul it to be taken into account.
It is funny, but if there is a camera I may buy trusting I do not need overhaul, it is precisely the Yashica GX !
Cheers,
Ruben
The GSN is not an option instead of the Canonet QL GIII. In my message I tryied to say that you, already having a GX, do already own something parallel somehow to the Canonet, although lacking full manual override.
I explained that for full manual control the GIII is fully featured, with the exception of the light meter, that in manual mode doesn't operate.
But I also referred to the problem of the fully manual use of the canonet, saying that the controls are rather small. In case you have strong and thin fingers, you may be OK with the Canonet GIII. But if not, then you should go for a bigger camera than the GIII.
My proposal of the GSN was not in the range of full manual control. The GSN has the same type of features like your GX, but much better autoexposure and perhaps world record noiseless shutter.
I notice that you want a rather small camera with full manual controls. There are some 4 or 5 great cameras, but I repeat the contradiction between using these cameras for full manual mode and their small size.
The Olympus SP falls in a totally different cathegory of its own. It is bigger than your GX, but not so much a difference. Yet although being bigger a bit even than a Canonet, its controls are commonly stiff. So either your buy a high condition one, or send anyone to overhaul. The SPs are marketed at higher prices, higher even than the not cheap Yashica GX. Like the Canonets, no light meter usable in manual mode.
Now, what camera can offer you the size close to the GX and easy to manipulate manual controls ? I am not aware of. At least for the price range of up to 200 dollars.
It is only by compromising in the issue of camera size, that you can have excellent glass cameras, at low prices, with friendly user controls. One example is the Konica Auto S2. But like with all mentioned cameras here, full overhaul it to be taken into account.
It is funny, but if there is a camera I may buy trusting I do not need overhaul, it is precisely the Yashica GX !
Cheers,
Ruben
Bill N
Member
Hi Airds,
Where do you get the nice looking half case for your Cannonet?
Cheers,
Bill
Where do you get the nice looking half case for your Cannonet?
Cheers,
Bill
wintoid
Back to film
ruben said:
The meter in the 35SP is active in "manual" mode, it's just that manual mode is a slightly strange affair, and quite wonderful once you get used to it.
airds
Well-known
case
case
Bill
it is just the bottom half of the standard one - with the stud drilled out. More here http://snipurl.com/1ptqf
case
Bill N said:
Bill
it is just the bottom half of the standard one - with the stud drilled out. More here http://snipurl.com/1ptqf
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