Zero interest in the A7 or A7r - who is with me?

julianphotoart said:
I'm not allowed to say anything negative about the (amazing) a7/a7r because my nephew is the guy plugging them in the U.S. Sony promotional video that came out a day or so ago (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Pkp6dNHDdDM).
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Well he implies A7r can shoot 4fps with continuos AF.

Sorry, not true. It's 1.5 fps. Only does 4 with AF on first shot. Or for most of us, 4 with MF.

@burnacap

this one's for you :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN3c5xVpkTk&feature=youtu.be
 
Not interested..

For me, the whole point of mirrorless is that the gear is smaller, more portable. Full framers like the A7/A7r are bigger and require bigger lenses than the current NEX series. If I were to move away from the NEX-6 at all, it would be u4/3, not a FF..
 
CliveC said:
As sad as it is, a significant portion of a professional photographer's value is from appearances. Some clients are just reassured by a photographer with a massive amount of gear around their neck/shoulders.
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How about a hollow DSLR-like box around lighter and smaller camera? :)
 
CliveC said:
As sad as it is, a significant portion of a professional photographer's value is from appearances. Some clients are just reassured by a photographer with a massive amount of gear around their neck/shoulders.
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awkward moment when you rock up to a job with your D-whateva and the client starts telling you how he bought the same kit for his wife :D
at that point you just need to pull something big out of the bag, a Hassy, a monolight, an assistant holding a reflector, a refrigerator, anything just to shut him up LOL

I know one wedding photographer who shows up with a big camera with flash and white lens just for show, then hands it over to the assistant and works the whole wedding with an OMD or fuji X :p
 
Spyro said:
I know one wedding photographer who shows up with a big camera with flash and white lens just for show, then hands it over to the assistant and works the whole wedding with an OMD or fuji X :p
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"Yeah, I have the good stuff, but I don't value you as a client enough to bother using it on you. And I will rub it in your face all night." :D
 
Lss said:
"Yeah, I have the good stuff, but I don't value you as a client enough to bother using it on you. And I will rub it in your face all night." :D
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And, of course, "But you're such a fool that you'll be impressed by my big, heavy cameras even though I don't actually use them."

But to be fair, there are clients like that.

To return to the OP's observation, I ALWAYS have some interest in cameras that might do what I want. My cheap, manky 8-year-old Nikon DSLR is dying, so do I (a) go for another DSLR (b) find the money for an M Typ 240 (c) buy an A7R?

It's when cameras don't or can't do what I want that I have no interest in them.

Cheers,

R.
 
My interest is exactly zero.

I enjoy using an OVF.

I sold all my M/LTM lenses when I decided to stop using film.

The APS-C sensor/lens performance level and weight/size (including fast lens weight) with my current system is compatible with my photographic goals.

I do not accept the premise that Minolta's expertise will impact SONY. When a huge corporation buys a small corporation it is rare for the small company to change the buyer's culture.
 
As unlikely as it is for me, I'm more interested in the rumored Nikon F3 Digital type of camera.
 
thegman said:
My brother was a train ride through the Canadian Rockies, the couple behind him on the train were complaining about the lack of TVs in the back of the seats. This, in some of the most spectacular scenery in the world.

Many would much rather watch TV, as hard as it is to believe.
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When I lived in the Virgin Islands, I went sailing one Sunday with a bunch of folks from Roadtown. and there were a few tourists aboard. One lady sat down below the whole time reading a Yachting magazine. Go figure.
 
I preordered (that's a word now ?!) the A7r but have my doubts: noisy shutter and digital viewfinder with whatever focussing issues and image issues with wide angle lenses. I really like optical viewfinders and detest any lag in image display and shutter response. I'm sure it will disappoint so I'm trying to keep my expectations down.
 
when it was first rumored, I was 60% interested.
then I bought an X-Pro1 and sold all my Canon L lens so my interest went down to 30%, I realized that you don't need a FF to get decent shots.
now that I took the plunge on an M9, finding out that shutter is noisy, EVF, it doesn't take RF wide angle lens nicely, my interest has plummeted down to 0%.

if i still had any EF lens, then maybe I might consider it for landscape but really pointless for me since the X100s and M9 can take great landscape shots as well
 
It was interesting to read about release of those two. It will be interesting to see how old LTM RF primes are going to work on those.
But I have no interest to buy it. Have Canon digital FF camera and their L glass for now.
 
Adanac said:
What's more I not only like but vastly prefer the EVF hump which is IMO the best possible place for a viewfinder (other than the right hand side which will never happen) for this left-eyed shooter. A centre-mounted finder with some rear clearance helps keep my oily nose away from the rear LCD. Fujifilm could take a lesson here for its EVF-only models instead of doggedly adhering to the faux rangefinder look for appearances sake alone over function.
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As a fellow left-eyed shooter I'll respectfully disagree. I prefer the ergos of the M6 and the Fuji X-E1 to any SLR I've ever used. When used left-eyed, SLRs place my right hand right in the way of my nose.

The only real improvement would be a complete mirror-image -- shutter & controls on the left side. And that will never happen with any camera design that is mass-produced.
 
Sony FF sensor in an affordable, small body.

The A7r is actually the best IQ you can get before going to MF and it's 2300 USD, how is this not like the greatest thing ever, exactly?
 
I'm thrilled. I'm ready to shoot more digital. A7 is my season pass. Full frame, opportunity to use legacy lenses - it is a useful development for me. I can buy into a modern, fairly cutting-edge system and still use my old glass (I hope). If I weren't so dull I might apply for Sony Fanboy membership. But I'm not a man of faith.
 
However good the Sony A7/A7R duo turn out to be, they won't produce ''better'' photographs than my pre-war Leica LTM's, my early Leica M's, my Nikon F and F2, my Canon F1n, my Pentax S1a, my Voigtlander Prominent and, especially, my Rollei TLR's.

What they will do though, without any doubt, is become irrepairable paperweights/bookends/doorstops/landfill long before any of the aforementioned optical/mechanical marvels.

However, the A7 devices will probably sell by the million, despite the indifference of unreconstructed film Luddites like myself.

To each photographer his own way of doing it.... !
 
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