best mate for an r4a is?

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the r2a or the r3a?

i'm comfortable with using a 35 or 40 mm lens

but i'm thinking it will be used more with the cv 50/2.5

so a 21 or a 25 on the r4a and and a 50 on the other body

it seems to boil down to the finder magnification

joe
 
Best mate for an R4A is an R3A- especially for a body to dedicate to a 50mm lens. You already have a great finder for wides; the R3 is the best for everything longer than 40mm.
 
Pitxu said:
A new R4A is the camera I've been saving for because of the wide, wide frame lines, and AE. But I just blew some of that money when I found a bargain L for my 25/4.

So maybe it'll be a 2A or 3A now, for use with the 50mm.
I've the same problem as you.:confused:

What's your 4A frame lines like for the 50? Is it workable?
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r4a 50 framelines are small but usable.
i like the idea of having 2 cameras for the 25 and 50, i could use the zi or even the cle but 2 near identical cameras is preferable. i would like to start using the 50 fl more.
 
I agree with Drew, the R3A is the perfect mate. You might want to think about a 75 to match with your 25. The 75 has a frame line all unto itself.

B2 (;->
 
back alley said:
the r2a or the r3a?

i'm comfortable with using a 35 or 40 mm lens

but i'm thinking it will be used more with the cv 50/2.5

so a 21 or a 25 on the r4a and and a 50 on the other body

it seems to boil down to the finder magnification

joe
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I know, it's just GAS Joe. Between the R4A, Zeiss Ikon and CLE you already have one of the best kits on RFF. Although you could go with my approach, where I have two of each camera for fault tolerance, which would mean you need another Ikon, a CLE and and R4...


But between the R2 and R3, I'd go with the R2 as I have problems with 1:1 finders with my bifocals. YMMV of course...
 
Al Patterson said:
I know, it's just GAS Joe. Between the R4A, Zeiss Ikon and CLE you already have one of the best kits on RFF. Although you could go with my approach, where I have two of each camera for fault tolerance, which would mean you need another Ikon, a CLE and and R4...


But between the R2 and R3, I'd go with the R2 as I have problems with 1:1 finders with my bifocals. YMMV of course...
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al, i have gone that route also, had 2 cles, 2 mamiya 6s, 3 canon p bodies, 5 oly 35rc, 2 zeiss ikons...you get the idea.

i was thinking about the elmar m 50/2.8 but now i'm thinking an r3a might be a better addition to the kit.

and then i'm gonna retire and take some damn photos ;)
 
Joe, Drew is right, B2 is right and so are you for agreeing.

edit "Joe... take some photos dammit!" ;- )
 
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back alley;844873 i was thinking about the elmar m 50/2.8 but now i'm thinking an r3a might be a better addition to the kit. and then i'm gonna retire and take some damn photos ;)[/quote said:
With an Elmar-M 50/2.8 you can take some damn good photos right now ... :D;):angel:
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Another vote for the R3A from me - I seriously want one to go with my R4A (but I don't have enough pennies right now).

The R4A has excellent wide frames, including a usable (but small) 35mm frame. And the R3A complements it very nicely - its 1:1 viewfinder magnification is perfect for a "2-eyes open view" with 50mm lenses, and is excellent for 75mm lenses too. Having a 40mm frame is also very useful.

(I actually briefly had an R3A that I got 2nd hand, but it was damaged in the post and had to be sent back for a refund, and some other demand on the money came up before I found another one, but I was able to have a look through the viewfinder with 50mm and 75mm lenses)

So for me, if I was choosing only one Bessa it would be an R2A, but to choose two it would definitely be the R3A/R4A combination.
 
Joe,
R4A+28mm and R3A+50mm are a classic go around combo, if you only can take one camera, the Zeiss Ikon+35mm is my obvious choice :)
 
i like the 25 a bit more than a 28 but i agree that if it's one camera then i like the zi plus 35. i'm waiting on the 35/2.8 and imagine some long sessions with it.

but for smallest and lightest i like the r4a, with the 21 lately.
 
I see things a little different as I don't find using a tele on a RF a combo I like. So, I would prefer a good all around camera like the ZI, to go along with my R4. That said, I am seriously thinking of selling my M6 and just sticking with the R4 along with the M2 and M3.
 
i'm not really thinking of a tele here, the r4a would have a wide on it, maybe the 25 and the r3a would have the 50 on it.
no lens changing and 2 rolls of film at the ready.
 
Joe, I've a 25 and I like it more than the 21, it doesn't seem to distort nor vignette quite as much and it works well in close quarters. I like the 28 also however the difference in FoV is not so great that I jump between the two lenses. I've a CV 25mm and an Orion 28mm, like 'em both!
 
As I've never had title to an aperture-preferred camera I've agonized over whether to get the R4M -a camera I would understand fully - or the R4A for its apparent ease of use. As I understand its workings, you simply select an aperture suitable to what you intend to photograph and the camera decides the proper shutter speed. Is that how it works? Does that mean you don't have to meter?
 
tedwhite said:
As I've never had title to an aperture-preferred camera I've agonized over whether to get the R4M -a camera I would understand fully - or the R4A for its apparent ease of use. As I understand its workings, you simply select an aperture suitable to what you intend to photograph and the camera decides the proper shutter speed. Is that how it works? Does that mean you don't have to meter?
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Yes, it picks shutter speed according to selected aperture and ISO value, but you still need to compensate its metering sometimes when shooting against a window for example, or in any other difficult lighting conditions.
 
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