Do you think Fuji will release other focal lengths?

[wgerrard]

Much depends, I think, on who Fuji decides is buying the X100. If that's typical P&S users who just want the panache of a retro-looking camera, I don't think they'd find much incentive to change anything.

If they decide that folks like us are buying the camera, then they have a real incentive to bring out different focal lengths and/or interchangeable lenses. The stereotypical snapshot shooter can't be bothered with such things.

 

[cam]

who needs anything more for what this camera is?

35 is perfect!

a few steps back and you get wider, a few steps closer and you get longer....

there are great manual dials for a reason -- use them! and, as stated above, the legs can get a little action as well 😉

 

[tlitody]

Much depends, I think, on who Fuji decides is buying the X100. If that's typical P&S users who just want the panache of a retro-looking camera, I don't think they'd find much incentive to change anything.

If they decide that folks like us are buying the camera, then they have a real incentive to bring out different focal lengths and/or interchangeable lenses. The stereotypical snapshot shooter can't be bothered with such things.

Well the point is that you can buy a handful of these things for the less than the price of a single M9. I'd happily buy 3 or 4 different focal length versions rather than pay for one M9. Just imagine, each viewfinder would be optimised for its focal length so you get a full(ish) frame viewing. No incy wincy patch for short tele lenses so you can see what you are doing.

 

[rxmd]

I do not know about the M mount feasibility, but I would seriously doubt that Fuji would bring a multi-lens camera with each lens having a leaf shutter. Not that it limits the top speed to about 1/500, but it would raise the cost significantly as well. Also the light metering implementation would become more difficult I guess ...

I guess it works like just about any digital compact camera, with a relatively primitive in-lens leaf shutter that is open most of the time. I think it's called a semi-electronic shutter; all the leaf shutter does is close at the end of exposure, the rest is done electronically.

Metering is quite easy - if you look at a digital compact, you can see how the shutter is open most of the time.

 

[gavinlg]

Yeah the camera is perfect at 35mm. Any longer and it becomes too long as an only camera, any shorter and it can't be used for certain things. 35mm is the greatest allrounder. It's all about simplicity.

If they were to make an interchangeable lens model, it would HAVE to be a full frame. They tuned the sensor to the lens with the x100, to just chuck an interchangeable mount on it wouldn't work - they'd have to somehow tune the microlenses to the lens each time a new one is mounted, or just try and do a 'coverall' sort of thing. It wouldn't be as good.

I'm happy with the 35mm thanks. If I want interchangeable lenses or wider/longer lengths I'll use it with my already significantly more versatile DSLR - which is how it was designed to be used.

 

[HoodedOne]

I don't think fuji is gonna bring out the x100 with different focal lenghts. Like Cam said 35 is perfect, and sneaker-zoom never fails ( unless you're at the edge of a cliff).
But I really hope that (if the x100 proves succesfull), fuji will bring out a camera with intechangeable lenses.

 

[bwcolor]

If this camera is a hit then they will certainly bring out a new model.

If they can keep the quality high and cost below $1000, I would like to see all fixed lens cameras optimized for their sensor. Remember, this also means an optimized viewfinder and no sensor cleaning. That said, I would, as I do now, mostly use the 35mm on full frame. For marketing reasons, they would also do well with a 50mm equivalent camera. Most polls on this board show that 50mm is very popular. Longer and shorter lens/camera combination would probably not be as economically viable on the market. There might be room for a very fast 50mm mated to a future high ISO sensor at a premium price. First, they need to get the X100 off the ground.

 

[Pablito]

wider maybe but certainly not longer.

 

[tlitody]

I asked for 50 and 85 as well because that gives full height portrait and head and shoulders portrait as well as wider shots with the 35 equivalent. To me that would make a fantastic system for weddings. You have three bodies with you so you always have two backups and all three for around the price of $3000. That would be incredible value for money compared to any other system. No extra costs on lenses. And the really big plus is that all lenses can be fast. Maybe an 85 would only get to 2.8 as an f2 would be a bit big on such a small camera. Pros would snap them all up at that price point.
I wouldn't expect street people to snap them all up, but fuji say they are targetted at pros.

 

[cam]

I wouldn't expect street people to snap them all up, but fuji say they are targetted at pros.

so street aren't pros?

 

[tlitody]

so street aren't pros?

I think you know what I mean. Street don't usually use mid to short tele lenses. A lot of Pros do portrait work using mid to short tele.

 

[bwcolor]

Since these are not full frame sensors and given the need to keep the size down, a telephoto in the 75mm range just might work.

 

[iwaki]

No. Maybe if technology expands then a zoom lens. I am waiting for Leica's reply to this camera.

i'm somehow very skeptical that Leica has what it takes to make such a camera........ Even the successor to the X1 is probably too short of a time for Leica to catch to other company's technology.

As an owner of M9 and a former owner of R-D1, for me, aside from the fullframe sensor, there is nothing in M9 that hasn't already been done by R-D1. Which is essentially only retrofitting digital into a film RF body.

I have no idea but, does leica even develop their own electronics and software? I thought jenoptics is doing it for them?

So as for the poll, i vote for wider focal length, if there are going to be any other focal length. That's how Fuji has been doing things it seems ;-)

 

[dazedgonebye]

They'll go with interchangeable.

 

[DNG]

They'll go with interchangeable.

If they do,
A body for under $1K, and lenses for $500, maybe a 25/28/35/50/90 fov with f/2,8 for the 25mm. f/2 for 28/35/50, and f/2.5 for the 90 fov.

but, what kind of VF? Frame lines?
Hybrid OVF with a built in magnifier from .5x for 25/28/35. and .72x or 1x for 50/90 lenses? , Plus EVF option if you want it live?
Best of both worlds......

Think Fuji is reading this thread?
I 'd say so 🙂
They'd be out of touch not to, IMO

 

[M4streetshooter]

Cam,
Any word on our 2 previous post....
Just wondering...

 

[bensyverson]

I really hope they DON'T go interchangeable. I wouldn't buy it. First of all, there are complications related to the OVF, as DNG mentioned above.

The potentially great thing about the X100 is that the sensor and lens are perfectly mated and optimized for each other. And of course you don't need to worry about sensor dust. An interchangeable system means a more general, compromised sensor.

But if this camera is a big success, I can imagine them doing a 17mm f/2.8 (28mm equivalent) or perhaps 15mm (24mm equivalent). Think of Ricoh's GR series.

 

[flip]

Why not M mount?

Because SM mount sounds edgy, even for Sony.😛

 

[Nettar]

There are several threads addressing the X100 on Rangefinderforum. In one of them (http://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1426447&postcount=1176) tom.w.bn, who has apparently seen the mockups, wrote that "there was another aspect the nice Fuji representative told me. The lens bayonet is designed to add converters in front of the lens." Nettar

 

[semilog]

We doin' need no stinkin' other focal lengths...
Man ain't no man can't see 35mm....
Sheeeesh!

That's about right. 😉 ...but there's need, and there's want. And the second one I'd want is either 21 or 24mm.

28 and 50 I can do without, thanks. And teles belong on SLRs, anyway.