Fuji X100 Digital SOMETHING from Fujifilm

ebino said:
so manual focus cannot be done with OVF? This is what we were afraid of...
Anyway, as time passes the excitement of X100 seems to fade away.
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That's what happens when fantasies become reality. For many of us, the Hexar AF was an instant comparison, and if the AF speed is reasonable, this is the nearest we've managed to get, after years of waiting. THen the capability of zone focusing, easily, albeit by a display rather than numbers on a lens, is an improvement over the Hexar.

PKR said:
My understanding from earlier reading was that the focusing sensor (contrast system) would project a patch (heads-up display) on to the optical system?
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It looks like it, from the website - the focus point is projected onto the OVF.
 
Paul T. said:
That's what happens when fantasies become reality. For many of us, the Hexar AF was an instant comparison, and if the AF speed is reasonable, this is the nearest we've managed to get, after years of waiting. THen the capability of zone focusing, easily, albeit by a display rather than numbers on a lens, is an improvement over the Hexar.


It looks like it, from the website - the focus point is projected onto the OVF.
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With the multiple/displayed focus points, it does seem to improve over the Hexar, and since an digital Hexar is what I've been asking for....
 
Paul T. said:
That's what happens when fantasies become reality. For many of us, the Hexar AF was an instant comparison, and if the AF speed is reasonable, this is the nearest we've managed to get, after years of waiting. THen the capability of zone focusing, easily, albeit by a display rather than numbers on a lens, is an improvement over the Hexar.


It looks like it, from the website - the focus point is projected onto the OVF.
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This isn't a bad system as it can be modified to accept a lot of "expanded" input via software. i.e. it can be built upon. If a lens (any lens) can be "profiled" to meet the input requirements, the system could be made to work with that lens. Additional lenses could be auto sensed electronically or profiled (older lenses) and selected in a menu once added to the firmware.
 
I predict 3 waves of buyers for this camera.

1. Those who are going to buy it when it hits the shelves.
2. Those who are going to wait until they see some results.
3. Those who dont know much about it,but fall on the bandwagon after hearing the buzz about it,if it a great sucess.

Im in the second catagory and I think it may well be August before tests are in,opinions are expressed and its verified as a pro piece.
 
I'm in the 4th wave.

If something happens to my GRD III, this will in all likeliness replace it. Or if I need a higher IQ than the GRD III can give me and the X100 can give it, I'm all over it. Or if I pay off all my credit cards and sell two of our houses, I'm all in.

B2 (;->
 
is there anything stopping fuji from putting a passive phase detect autofocus system in this camera? there's no reason why it can't have both phase detect and contrast detect, and use one or the other as appropriate.

anyhow, i'm sure you'll be able to focus manually in OVF mode. a little green light will go on when whatever in the movable focusing zone is in focus. i'm hoping there will be a way to set focus by feel, before you raise the camera to your eye.
 
tapesonthefloor said:
You should be clearer here that you are guessing, and that this is not fact. You'll give everyone a heart attack.
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I have committed available specifications [published and deduced] and Internet chatter to memory. What I wrote in Post 938 and 1510 were the best I've got. Feel free to add new facts...ideally with citations.

I have not read anywhere any mentioning of OVF focusing aid. However, there were several mentioning of multiple focusing and metering points under AF/AE.
 
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I realise my earlier post was confusing. Using AF with the OVC, the focusing frame (not patch) or frames, if you're using face recognition etc, is projected onto the VF.
 
ebino said:
As far as EVF is concerned, well, most of us really don't care about an EVF. Its known to make one feel nauseous, cause a headache and in some situations trigger a panic attack.

Anyway, as time passes the excitement of X100 seems to fade away.
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The EVF on the Olympus EP2 is incredible. Using the EVF as a focus-patch overlay for the OVF would work quite well.

I'm fairly excited about the Fuji camera. I will buy one for a carry around camera, a digital version of a Canonet or Minolta Hi-Matic. Drop in in a camera case instead of a flash.
 
DaveP said:
I predict 3 waves of buyers for this camera.

1. Those who are going to buy it when it hits the shelves.
2. Those who are going to wait until they see some results.
3. Those who dont know much about it,but fall on the bandwagon after hearing the buzz about it,if it a great sucess.

Im in the second catagory and I think it may well be August before tests are in,opinions are expressed and its verified as a pro piece.
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4. Those who now are researching X100 on Net, but as soon it will be available after some circles around camera they will decide "not right now".

5. Those who appreciate historical importance of this camera, but being more used to ultra cheap used cameras. Need some time to step towards brand new camera.

I'm in 5th set.
 
Brian Sweeney said:
The EVF on the Olympus EP2 is incredible. Using the EVF as a focus-patch overlay for the OVF would work quite well.

I'm fairly excited about the Fuji camera. I will buy one for a carry around camera, a digital version of a Canonet or Minolta Hi-Matic. Drop in in a camera case instead of a flash.
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The EVF on the EP2 is indeed very good (I know as I own one).

BUT...

It's not so good in low light, and not nearly as good as optical, especially this one with overlay.
 
cbphoto said:
then don't insult me by mimicking the looks of a camera that is 100x better.
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Really? 100 times better? Can you tell me how an M8 or M9 is 100X better than this one? Certainly not resolution, dynamic range, noise at higher iso. I'd love to hear your explanation on this.
 
Frankie said:
I have not read anywhere any mentioning of OVF focusing aid. However, there were several mentioning of multiple focusing and metering points under AF/AE.
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That is fairly specious logic, Sir! While I agree that any ideas regarding an EVF patch superimposed on the OVF are nothing more than conjecture, stating that "there is no OVF manual focus" is just plain wrong. Let's keep the guesswork clearly labeled as guesswork, shall we?

With respect,

Nicholas, speaking frankly

/anal
 
I wrote previously that camera firmware can display datasets [numeric or graphic through the EVF panel] such as measurements, menu resources etc. onto the OVF.

Measurement refers to the encoded positions of the focusing and aperture rings, shutter speed dial etc.

In OVF manual focusing, if one zone-focused at ~mid-range, and aperture set at f8, then the firmware would show the encoded focal distance, perhaps at 10m with LUT DoF [menu resource] co-displayed. If that setting is acceptable, then AFL or AF takes over when shutter is tripped.

The advantage of OVF is that no [EVF] shutter open/close/open actions are necessary...thus less lag, but no live view. That is not so different from traditional RF zone focus, P&S street technique...ignoring the misaligned patch.
 
Brian Sweeney said:
The EVF on the Olympus EP2 is incredible. Using the EVF as a focus-patch overlay for the OVF would work quite well.
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The EVF panel in the Oly is the same used in X100...800 x 600 x RGB [sequential]...1,440,000 total dots. 😉

Focusing aid overlay, whether a patch, a parallax-wedge or peaking would indeed work well but requires the shutter open/close/open...lag time. If we don't mind, then no matter. 🙂
 
We are all guessing...

AND, I am sure if OVF focusing-aids are available, the Fuji marketing people would be the first to mention it. No deduction on my part needed. 🙄
 
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