tapesonthefloor
Well-known
We are all guessing...
AND, I am sure if OVF focusing-aids are available, the Fuji marketing people would be the first to mention it. No deduction on my part needed.
Except that:
- even if the camera is "for photographers by photographers [and some engineers]", the marketing is still going to be poorly-translated drivel written for the unwashed masses. And I'm not guessing there. And
- we've all acknowledged that the firmware is the least firm portion of the development so far, and that EVF focus aids superimposed on the OVF is a purely software issue. The hardware's definitely there. Given a rough knowledge of the hardware's workings, I know that I personally could program an EVF focus patch, and the Fujifilm developers must be light years ahead of me. ...right? The gritty details of the focus aids are going to be the last things that "firm up" about this camera—that, and the colour of the highly user-friendly menus, of course—which is why they've danced a bit around the subject so far. I'm guessing we will see a focus aid of some sort on the OVF.
TSW
Newbie
In case anyone hasn't seen this- includes video of an interview with the designers from Fuji.
http://enticingthelight.com/2010/09/19/fujifilm-finepix-x100-where-the-hell-did-this-come-from/
Who spoke very little english. Which makes me think that someone at Fuji is going to sift through 60+ pages of RFF chat on this is... like wishing the X100 had interchangeable lenses and cost <USD1000.
http://enticingthelight.com/2010/09/19/fujifilm-finepix-x100-where-the-hell-did-this-come-from/
Who spoke very little english. Which makes me think that someone at Fuji is going to sift through 60+ pages of RFF chat on this is... like wishing the X100 had interchangeable lenses and cost <USD1000.
Yeah- they will not sift through 60 pages. Summary:
THANKYOU, FUJI!
THANKYOU, FUJI!
Paul T.
Veteran
ebino
Well-known
You see, with AFS you half press the shutter, it focuses and it stays there until you press the shutter again. With AFC when you half press the shutter it continues to focus. So with those two options and a fixed lens, why on earth would you need manual focus? But then if the light and contrast is really out of whack and you must manually focus then you can simply go to EVF option and its done.
You're expecting Fuji to make you a M9 for $1000. I'm afraid you're wrong and your high expectations are misplaced.
tapesonthefloor
Well-known
As I said, AF doesn't exist to me. If 99% of the other photographers in the world are capturing "the shot" with AF, then they certainly don't need me to. I'll stick with doing it the way I enjoy doing it, thank you, with all the unique qualities and slight misfocuses that that entails.
your high expectations are misplaced.
But they're all I've got!
JoeV
Thin Air, Bright Sun
I recently noticed, while sifting through a hard-drive of images for my first Blurb book, that my photography has changed since I begain using the Lumix G1 micro-4/3 camera, with EVF, in early 2009.
I'm now prone to using selective focus and depth-of-focus as creative tools, like one would with exposure and composition, rather than as a mere exposure moderator. And my use of selective focus isn't limited to the binary paradigm of either wide or narrow focus, but because the EVF enables the photographer to constantly monitor DOF during composition, up to the moment the shutter is tripped, the quality and amount of selective focus can be continuously monitored and adjusted.
This is a fundamental difference from the way that selective focus is previewed and controlled with SLR and rangefinder cameras, one that I believe will change photography; it certainly is changing the direction of my personal work.
So, while there remains certain properties of rangefinder focusing that can't be emulated by an EVF system, the live-view EVF itself opens up new creative opportunities.
~Joe
I'm now prone to using selective focus and depth-of-focus as creative tools, like one would with exposure and composition, rather than as a mere exposure moderator. And my use of selective focus isn't limited to the binary paradigm of either wide or narrow focus, but because the EVF enables the photographer to constantly monitor DOF during composition, up to the moment the shutter is tripped, the quality and amount of selective focus can be continuously monitored and adjusted.
This is a fundamental difference from the way that selective focus is previewed and controlled with SLR and rangefinder cameras, one that I believe will change photography; it certainly is changing the direction of my personal work.
So, while there remains certain properties of rangefinder focusing that can't be emulated by an EVF system, the live-view EVF itself opens up new creative opportunities.
~Joe
ebino
Well-known
I'm excited as well and I will buy X100 for that rangefinder feel of it if nothing else, and if the OVF is really a let down i could use an auxiliary VF. I just hope the AF is fast, there is no shutter lag and image quality is on par with other DSLRs at this range.
ebino
Well-known
As I said, AF doesn't exist to me. If 99% of the other photographers in the world are capturing "the shot" with AF, then they certainly don't need me to. I'll stick with doing it the way I enjoy doing it, thank you, with all the unique qualities and slight misfocuses that that entails.
But they're all I've got!
look here now, whats the difference between moving a ring to focus and pressing a button to focus? isn't it a little OCD, all this obsessing over manual focus.
when you photograph the camera should disappear. try to think like that, it might help. lol
tapesonthefloor
Well-known
I'm looking for the don't-feed-the-troll emoticon, give me a sec...
...still looking...
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
ou're expecting Fuji to make you a M9 for $1000. I'm afraid you're wrong and your high expectations are misplaced.
No, he's not. He's expecting Fuji to make a camera that is in several key ways better than an M9, for under $1000.
If my camera disappeared then the film would be ruined. Talk about a massive light leak. Bad enough when a little foam rots.
I prefer manual focus. I like shimming the lenses that I use. But I just got back some really nice shots at the beach with the Leica Mini. It did a good job. Drop it into the beach bag, great for quick grab shots.
I prefer manual focus. I like shimming the lenses that I use. But I just got back some really nice shots at the beach with the Leica Mini. It did a good job. Drop it into the beach bag, great for quick grab shots.
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
When in doubt, READ and THINK. I do homework...first.
Talking about a camera based on what is known is quite different from arguing what it should have been.
semilog
curmudgeonly optimist
Well- I suspect the SDK and sample source code will not be included with the CD included with the camera.
So I am going to have to trust Fuji and/or Frankie to do it right.
So I am going to have to trust Fuji and/or Frankie to do it right.
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
Hey Frankie -- Are you saying that you agree with me, or that you disagree?
Ha-ha-ha, I thought you said I asked "...a bit much" some time ago.
Frankie
Speaking Frankly
ebino
Well-known
Fuji X100, the first open source camera in the world!
But seriously, first we had to contend with Leica owners, now we have this resurgent group of we-want-leica-experience-on-the-cheap-digital-camera crowd to content with. Life is getting harder and harder...
But seriously, first we had to contend with Leica owners, now we have this resurgent group of we-want-leica-experience-on-the-cheap-digital-camera crowd to content with. Life is getting harder and harder...
You really get spoiled by writing your own embedded firmware. Things work EXACTLY the way you want them to. And if you don't like something, go in and change it.
My expectations for this camera to replace a Leica are well founded and quite reasonable.
But I will still use the Leica Mini on occasion, even after getting the Fuji.