Fujifilm X-Pro1 details leaked!!!

Well, from what I've seen now I'd never buy a Leica M8/9/10. The Fuji does it for me.
However, I already own the X10 which I find an excellent and quick compact P&S, especially on EXR setting with good IQ and a zoom range that covers the XPro-1 lenses.
I can't see there's enough difference, even acknowledging some of the X10 quirks, to tempt me to open my wallet. Unless I go fully digital and sell my M6 and R4A!
But why would I do that when I use film and mostly take B&W?
 
BMacW said:
Just a quick question...
How do you project the frame lines with parallax correction in the OVF when using a manual lens?
If the answer is 'No, you can't, you will need to use an EVF' AND that the hybrid OVF offers no advantage of a RF (precise manual focusing). What's the damn point of these Hybrid VF???

I'm sorry, but after using the EVF with the 5N with many M mount lenses, I can hardly see how this system could be any better with the hybrid VF.

If you are looking for a AF compact system with the excellent Fuji lenses and sensor, then I can see all the hype/excitement here.
Otherwise most of you will just have the VF door shut with your M lenses most of the tiem (nex 7)...... right?
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The advantage of a hybrid finder is that those people (like me) who detest an EVF have an alternative. The EVF on my X100 is lousy crap, while I like the OVF. Last weekend I had the chance to look through the Nex-7 viewfinder (some say it's a top league EVF) and my conclusion is that EVF still needs some years of development before they are usable for me.
 
noimmunity said:
Smells like a covert op launched by a desperate competitor unable to come up with a rival product in the immediate marketing cycle.

Barring an exorbitant MSRP, what else other than a rumor like this could dampen people's enthusiasm and convince them to hold off?
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The 35/1,4 lens really begins to make sense then! 18mm, 35mm, 60mm, those do not seem to be standard 1,5 crop focal lengths. Perhaps they will be compatible with the full frame body?
 
ulysses.o said:
FF rumors still have me on edge, i love what they did with the sensor, that alone is enough to make me buy it before the FF version is released (if it does)
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The official X-Pro1 site mentions this is the "flagship model" of the line, and that conceptual development began three years ago. There is also a fairly lengthy sales pitch for the APS sensor size as being an optimum compromise between picture quality and system (lens/body) portability. Although the site does mention that other bodies and lenses are in the pipeline, it seems unlikely they would be planning another body that would contradict the basic design choices of the flagship model.

But I'll admit that FF flutters don't die easily!
 
Fujiguys mentioned during the video that Fuji will be releasing an M mount adapter! I'm really interested in how this will turn out.

1.5 crop with my current set of lenses (35 and 50) might be reasonable enough, probably maybe buy a 21mm or 15mm CV to finish the range.
 
Griffin said:
The 35/1,4 lens really begins to make sense then! 18mm, 35mm, 60mm, those do not seem to be standard 1,5 crop focal lengths. Perhaps they will be compatible with the full frame body?
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18mm: a lot of crop zoom lenses start at 18mm (Sigma 18-50, Canon 18-55, etc.)
60mm: Tamron 60/2.8 Di Macro
35mm: Nikon 35/1.8 DX, Sony 35/1.8 DT


 
crispy12 said:
Fujiguys mentioned during the video that Fuji will be releasing an M mount adapter! I'm really interested in how this will turn out.
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well the sensor chops off all the problem areas (corners) therefore it cant be too bad...
as long as you can work around the crop factor and get the focal lengths you want.
 
I don't know why someone would buy this camera if he want's to use mainly old lenses with an adaptor. I assume that a useful focussing help will only be available with the electronic viewfinder and the optical viewfinder is almost useless here. So if this is the case, the camera offers no benefit compared to a nex-7 but costs much more.
 
Ok, I just survived my first Bert and Ernie, the Fuji Guys video. Other than a disturbing thought that Bert must register with the authorities when he enters a new town, I think I want one. I will wait to see how it performes, but it maybe time for me to get serious about this digital thing.
 
If Leica had not become a luxury brand for ultra traditionalists decades ago, yes this is probably the camera they could have made.

Would I buy it? Maybe. I already have a Nikon dLSR and a NEX-3 with adapters, but the Fuji is pretty close to perfect in concept.
 
noimmunity said:
The official X-Pro1 site mentions this is the "flagship model" of the line <snip> There is also a fairly lengthy sales pitch for the APS sensor size as being an optimum compromise between picture quality and system (lens/body) portability.
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1. Flagship model *for now*, I'd imagine.
2. I think they may be right (also for now) on this.

I was disappointed with the M8 introduction on account of the small sensor *combined with the native M-mount* which distorted the functionality of the M lens range (not to mention the other M8 issues) so I did not get one.

In this case (X Pro 1) we have apparently highish but realistic prices combined with a system that offers appropriate focal lengths out of the gate (curiously, the first lenses I bought when I got my (used) M7 were 28, 50 and 90), and still offers (probably) the option of using legacy lenses to fill some of the gaps (while they last). Also, sensor technology has reached the point where APS-C can give us everything that we realistically need (and more than 35mm film), and we are getting more and more accustomed to less-than-35mm-full-frame formats.

I think it will be a success, but I'm going to wait until we have some hands-on reviews first. However, I already put my Olympus E-P3 kit up for sale.
 
tom.w.bn said:
I don't know why someone would buy this camera if he want's to use mainly old lenses with an adaptor.
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I guess it is still to early to say for sure, but I would agree. For that user, I still think the next generation Ricoh M mount module may offer a better solution. But we will have to wait for the actual release of the camera to see how things like corner performance, color and focus work with legacy lenses.

On the other hand, the native lens line-up looks very very good.

tom.w.bn said:
the camera offers no benefit compared to a nex-7 but costs much more.
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Isn't that conclusion a bit hasty? The benefits that may exist are of a subjective nature: these are two bodies that have totally different interfaces and suggest totally different visions of user experience. The DPreview preview sums up quite nicely the differences.

There may also be subtle differences in the final output, given the differences between the two sensors. Which is "better" may depend on individual taste. The jpeg samples suggest so far that the colors produced by the camera are extremely alluring, and there is reason to hope that the digital grain may be more pleasing due to the new color array.
 
Haha... I just find it hard to believe people would be so keen to use M mount lenses on this camera. The lenses that are made for it will AF far quicker than you can manually focus on ANY camera, they will be sharp wide open and side to side, they will be low distortion, and they will work 100% properly... They're fujinon lenses remember? I don't ever remember a bad fujinon lens. Also, they're cheap!
 
gavinlg said:
Haha... I just find it hard to believe people would be so keen to use M mount lenses on this camera. The lenses that are made for it will AF far quicker than you can manually focus on ANY camera
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no AF is faster than zone focus
or any type of pre focus
or stop down and no focus, if the lens is wide enough
 
gavinlg said:
Haha... I just find it hard to believe people would be so keen to use M mount lenses on this camera. The lenses that are made for it will AF far quicker than you can manually focus on ANY camera, they will be sharp wide open and side to side, they will be low distortion, and they will work 100% properly... They're fujinon lenses remember? I don't ever remember a bad fujinon lens. Also, they're cheap!
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People have the M-mount lenses already, so effectivly they're free.
It's hard to compete with a free lens on sharpness, distortion, ease of use etc.
And they'll buy the Fuji lenses anyway.
 
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