Fujifilm X-T1

willie_901 said:
I don't really understand what you are saying.
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In-camera JPEG rendering parameters can be customized at any ISO in existing X series cameras. This is also true for raw + JPEG mode.

What can't be customized with the XT-1?
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I am referring to H1 and H2 settings on the ISO dial, which the user can configure (according to DPReview there are two settings with three possible values: 12800, 25600, 51200). Since these settings are JPEG only, it would be useful to be able to configure them to other values as well (say, ISO 800 or 3200). This would simply allow for more flexibility for anyone who does not need the highest ISO settings. No need to shoot RAW+JPEG.

(I see I missed that there is also an L setting on the dial, which is JPEG only at ISO 100. This could similarly be configurable.)
 
An interesting point..Lasse

I guess if enough people were to ask for it, this could be a future fw update.

Gary
 
I have been thinking, this camera could also be the best home for my Nikon dslr lenses using speedbooster and rf lenses, given the quality of the evf and the split image capability. Hmmm..GAS attack just thinking about it.

Given what we are seeing from xe2 and xt1, the xp2 should be a killer.. Whatever first gen teething pains on the xt1, should be fixed by the time the xp2 is released. Of course, the new tech in the xp2, will have its own issues 🙁, but I think Fuji is really doing better w/ each new camera body release.

One hope I have w/ the xp2, is a 24-30mp sensor. Not because I need such a large amount of mp in itself, but so I can carry a small fast prime --> crop 2-3x and still have at least 12mp to use. Since I never print bigger then 13x19, this should be fine for me.

Gary
 
f16sunshine said:
oh damn... Looks too small again. I was seeing this as a more substantial camera to hold onto. That's cramped. Staying with xpro1 for now 😕
The camera size shrinkage race is going the wrong direction for big cave dwelling thugs like me ...

My fingers are half again this size..
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I agree, although the grip may help.

I am happy to see a reasonable price and faster continuous focus, this bodes well.

One thing that struck me with the Nikon DF and now this camera is that in spite of having the old school speed and ISO dials, the shutter and ISO are still controlled by fractional stops using the control dials. This indicates to me that the mechanical dials are really there for marketing purposes, probably to appeal to the older demographic (of which I am in) but it feels like "bad design" to me to be sticking attractive/nostalgic but less than effective controls onto a camera that really doesn't need them.

While I understand it's as pointless as the guys wishing for a LCD-less digital camera... I wish the manufacturers would hire some better industrial designers and ergonomic/UI specialists and do an all-out new design ~ there is no reason to follow either RF or SLR design history. Some of the early digital cameras were really innovative with the design and now we're just getting boring homogenization.

Perhaps the X-Pro2 won't be so self-consciously retro and be allowed to be a more responsive functional design?

Still, given the price, refinements, and the lens selection, Fuji seems to be on top nowadays. Hope their sales reflect it!
 
jja said:
How well will the X-T1 work with M-lenses? Think there will be a significant improvement over the X-E2 and X-E1? I'm not averse to using the Fuji lenses, but I have 5 M-lenses I wouldn't mind adapting to the X-T1.
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My M mount lenses work wonderfully on my X-E2. So do my old Nikon Ai lenses, except that they an the adapter are a bit bulky.
 
Lss said:
I am referring to H1 and H2 settings on the ISO dial, which the user can configure (according to DPReview there are two settings with three possible values: 12800, 25600, 51200). Since these settings are JPEG only, it would be useful to be able to configure them to other values as well (say, ISO 800 or 3200). This would simply allow for more flexibility for anyone who does not need the highest ISO settings. No need to shoot RAW+JPEG.

(I see I missed that there is also an L setting on the dial, which is JPEG only at ISO 100. This could similarly be configurable.)
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I truly am not trying to be difficult, but I am still confused. Isn't the Hi ISO customization only for the virtual ISO value? The JPEG rendering parameters are not involved. Isn't ISO 800 and 3200 already on the ISO dial. And, the ISO dial already has 1/3 stop increments for ISOs below the Hi ISO settings.

Is your disappointment due to the fact that there is no psuedo-analog switch to elect between raw, raw + jpeg and jpeg only.
 
Frank Petronio said:
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One thing that struck me with the Nikon DF and now this camera is that in spite of having the old school speed and ISO dials, the shutter and ISO are still controlled by fractional stops using the control dials. This indicates to me that the mechanical dials are really there for marketing purposes, probably to appeal to the older demographic (of which I am in) but it feels like "bad design" to me to be sticking attractive/nostalgic but less than effective controls onto a camera that really doesn't need them.
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Not sure if I fully understand, do you mean the manual controls have an automatic override or that since we're shooting digital ISO and shutter speed should be stepless? I read someone complaining about their x-pro choosing a different shutter speed from the one selected, but the details were murky.

I'm definitely with you on lack of progressive design on most recent digitals.
 
Frank Petronio said:
One thing that struck me with the Nikon DF and now this camera is that in spite of having the old school speed and ISO dials, the shutter and ISO are still controlled by fractional stops using the control dials. This indicates to me that the mechanical dials are really there for marketing purposes, probably to appeal to the older demographic (of which I am in) but it feels like "bad design" to me to be sticking attractive/nostalgic but less than effective controls onto a camera that really doesn't need them.
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The fact is that not everyone uses a camera the same way. I prefer the dials and I'm not that old. It really depends on what you like and how you use your camera.
 
willie_901 said:
I truly am not trying to be difficult, but I am still confused. Isn't the Hi ISO customization only for the virtual ISO value?
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Yes, my point is exactly that there is very limited customization. It is so limited that it seems almost pointless. You can basically only choose which single value to skip. Let's leave it at that for a moment and think what the ISO dial does. For a RAW user, the ISO dial seems to force JPEG output when the extended values are used. This suggests that the ISO dial may be used to choose between RAW and JPEG in specific operating points. Combine the two points, and you get added flexibility in the user interface.

This is a fairly minor thing that really does not need a long discussion. The customization would be useful for some, unnecessary for others.

Is your disappointment due to the fact that there is no psuedo-analog switch to elect between raw, raw + jpeg and jpeg only.
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Well, I am not disappointed, I am not a Fuji X owner and will likely never use this camera.
 
back alley said:
i know…but one can hope.

right now, with the slow but smaller zooms plus the fast primes i'm a very happy shooter!
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That sounds like the way
I'm also in no way inclined to buy those f2.8 monstrosities for such a camera, I already own a monstrosity (55-200) and it's my least used lens because it pretty much doubles the weight of my bag just by itself. Not to mention the camera seems unbalanced and uncomfortable. A smaller, well corrected zoom for tripod or good light shooting sounds ok.
 
That 18-135 is equiv to a 27-200 fov. To me the 18-55 or 16-50 zooms are good choices for travel or do everything one lens solutions, but if u need more reach, that new one would be the ticket. But those 2.8 zooms are aimed squarely at a very specific segment of the market.

W/ the supposed faster af speed of the new xt1 and a fast tel zoom, I wonder if there are going to be some action related photographers that are going to give it a try.

Gary
 
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