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raid said:I cannot believe it that so many people here want again another new lens as if they did not already own a similar lens with a similar focal length. What is so great about buying a new lens?
hello kettle, this is the pot...
new or old is no matter raid, this is a lens that obviously is exciting to many people. now i don't have to buy a new camera if i want to use a 40/1.4.
by the way my friend, just how many lenses do you own
joe
amateriat
We're all light!
Oy...
Isn't it fun to have your future-gear plans upended by stuff like this? I was starting to get a bit glum over my receding plans to gather funds for a M-Hex 21-35mm dualie (my upper-budget limit for that one was shattered with F-22-like velocity). Ever since getting my M-Hex 28, I'd pretty much ruled out getting a 35mm to go alongside it unless it had something extra going for it, speed being at the top of the list. The CV f/1.2 seemed tempting until I remembered what hoisting a Noctilux was like...never mind how it would obliterate the scene through the VF. The CV f/2.5 II was cute n' tiny, but my 28, while larger, is quite reasonable in size, and not a lot slower, so that was out, too. The CV 40 is tiny and fast, but the frameline issue, however slight in reality, held me back, and continues to do so.
But, this...this is Baby Bear's bed to Goldilocks, people. It's small, light, and just fast enough for me to justify its existence between my 28 and 50. It would also be the one "go-to" lens when I'm out with a solo Hexar (this is a setup I haven't enjoyed since giving up my Hexar Autofocus). Since I'm rather big on optical continuity within a lens system, I'm leaning heavily toward the MC version.
Judging from this thread alone, Mr. K may well have created a monster here. His main problem, IMO, is going to be keeping enough lenses in the pipeline to satisfy demand, at least in the near-term, especially if the street price stays just south of five C-notes, with or without the hood.
Let's hope the health plan at Solms generously covers antidepressants...
- Barrett
Isn't it fun to have your future-gear plans upended by stuff like this? I was starting to get a bit glum over my receding plans to gather funds for a M-Hex 21-35mm dualie (my upper-budget limit for that one was shattered with F-22-like velocity). Ever since getting my M-Hex 28, I'd pretty much ruled out getting a 35mm to go alongside it unless it had something extra going for it, speed being at the top of the list. The CV f/1.2 seemed tempting until I remembered what hoisting a Noctilux was like...never mind how it would obliterate the scene through the VF. The CV f/2.5 II was cute n' tiny, but my 28, while larger, is quite reasonable in size, and not a lot slower, so that was out, too. The CV 40 is tiny and fast, but the frameline issue, however slight in reality, held me back, and continues to do so.
But, this...this is Baby Bear's bed to Goldilocks, people. It's small, light, and just fast enough for me to justify its existence between my 28 and 50. It would also be the one "go-to" lens when I'm out with a solo Hexar (this is a setup I haven't enjoyed since giving up my Hexar Autofocus). Since I'm rather big on optical continuity within a lens system, I'm leaning heavily toward the MC version.
Judging from this thread alone, Mr. K may well have created a monster here. His main problem, IMO, is going to be keeping enough lenses in the pipeline to satisfy demand, at least in the near-term, especially if the street price stays just south of five C-notes, with or without the hood.
Let's hope the health plan at Solms generously covers antidepressants...
- Barrett
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Mazurka
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Too much GAS? Let me help
Too much GAS? Let me help
I bet this lens has more light fall-off at f/1.4 than the f/1.2 Nokton and the ASPH 'lux. There's a reason why those lenses are nocticeably heftier.
Don't bother getting it if you already own the f/1.2 Nokton.
Too much GAS? Let me help
I bet this lens has more light fall-off at f/1.4 than the f/1.2 Nokton and the ASPH 'lux. There's a reason why those lenses are nocticeably heftier.
Don't bother getting it if you already own the f/1.2 Nokton.
amateriat
We're all light!
That's what the (occasionally-derided) focusing tab is for.ErikFive said:Im getting one of course, but is it just me or is it kinda small? I have big fingers.
None of my three M-Hex lenses have one, but I can deal with having a tab on this one.
- Barrett
yoyo22
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I will definetly buy one - most likely the S.C. version. Hopefully my wife won't realize the difference to the Color-Skopar PII that I currently have on my M2...
c.poulton
Well-known
Ha Ha...yoyo22 said:I will definetly buy one - most likely the S.C. version. Hopefully my wife won't realize the difference to the Color-Skopar PII that I currently have on my M2...
Harry Lime
Practitioner
The size certainly look intriguing.
I came from a v4 35 Cron and picked up a demo copy of the 35 Lux ASPH a few years ago (before the prices went nuts). The increase in size of the Lux ASPH is something I still haven't really gotten used to, but swapping the huge square hood for a custom screw-in job made a big difference.
I'm curious to see some images from this lens.
I came from a v4 35 Cron and picked up a demo copy of the 35 Lux ASPH a few years ago (before the prices went nuts). The increase in size of the Lux ASPH is something I still haven't really gotten used to, but swapping the huge square hood for a custom screw-in job made a big difference.
I'm curious to see some images from this lens.
Didier
"Deed"
Marc-A. said:do you know if a chrome version is planned?
An article in the february issue of "Nippon camera" states a black body only is planned.
Didier
Marc-A.
I Shoot Film
Didier said:An article in the february issue of "Nippon camera" states a black body only is planned.Didier
Thanks Didier. What is the reason why? It's weird ... I like chrome, and I guess I'm not the only one.
wintoid
Back to film
Yeah, no chrome means I probably won't get one.
Marc-A.
I Shoot Film
Mazurka said:I bet this lens has more light fall-off at f/1.4 than the f/1.2 Nokton and the ASPH 'lux. There's a reason why those lenses are nocticeably heftier.
You may be right or not. We'll see. But even with more light fall-off at 1.4, it's ok for me:
1. I don't really need the 1.4 stop, but I do need the f2 (at f2, with a 35mm, you can easily shoot in bad lighting condition, at 1/15, 1/8).
2. at wide aperture, light fall-off is good ... see the Noctilux
Marc-A.
I Shoot Film
raid said:I cannot believe it that so many people here want again another new lens as if they did not already own a similar lens with a similar focal length. What is so great about buying a new lens?
Focal length is one thing, aperture's another; plus it's new; plus it's cheap (even cheaper than a mint Summaron 2.8); plus it's different etc. So possible answers are the following:
photogdave said:Personally I've been after a faster, smaller 35 that focuses closer than my Ultron. A 35 Summilux of ANY vintage has been way out of my price range but now there is a brand new lens that has everything I'm looking for and it's within my budget.
Avotius said:This indeed may be the lens of choice to replace my cv 35 2.5 pII. Even though I am quite happy with that lens I would like to have something a little faster.
sam_m said:An upgraded 35 summilux, with a warranty, at an affordable price.
Finally, Joe asked you a very good question: how many 50 lenses do you own?
Maxapple88
Established
mr_phillip said:I think I might be selling a Summicron in February...
If you are, please let me know
koji
Member
By the way, this new lens has 10 blades for aperture control,
which is a nice touch. So far no one has mentioned it or I've
missed it.
which is a nice touch. So far no one has mentioned it or I've
missed it.
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nzhang
Member
I visited chinese leica forum sometimes, and know how Asian leica users worship the first version of 35mm summicron. They call it "eighth sister", because of eight element design. Price for a m2 version of this lens is even higher than a ASPH version. If this new design can keep the character of the beloved summicron, and have a usable f1.4, it will sell well in asian market at least.
I have a pre-ASPH summilux, and it is good enough for me at f1.7. However, I wouldn't call it a sharp lens. The bokeh of this lens is best of all my lens collection.
I have a pre-ASPH summilux, and it is good enough for me at f1.7. However, I wouldn't call it a sharp lens. The bokeh of this lens is best of all my lens collection.
jamxo
work in progress
Hmmm, on the condition that this lens is good, I can't help thinking it would be a nice replacement for the rather awkward juggling act of speed and size that I have at the moment on my m6: Nokton 1.2 and Summicron 40 F2.
That could pin down the 35mm focal length for me and leave me with enough cash to maybe get a 28 or a 50. Tempted indeed, but I will wait for some pictures first.
P.s. I have a mental image of Mr K reading this thread and doing a happy dance.
That could pin down the 35mm focal length for me and leave me with enough cash to maybe get a 28 or a 50. Tempted indeed, but I will wait for some pictures first.
P.s. I have a mental image of Mr K reading this thread and doing a happy dance.
BNF
Established
You guys are going to be the financial end of me.
'bunch of pushers you all are.....

'bunch of pushers you all are.....
bean_counter
Well-known
Just in time! I'm treating myself to a used M (after years of LTM) when my bonus comes in mid-March. I have been looking for a faster 35 to go with my 50 Nokton.
I like my 35 Skopar, but I'll be happy to dedicate it to one of my IIIf's.
I like my 35 Skopar, but I'll be happy to dedicate it to one of my IIIf's.
foto_fool
Well-known
Mazurka said:I bet this lens has more light fall-off at f/1.4 than the f/1.2 Nokton and the ASPH 'lux. There's a reason why those lenses are nocticeably heftier.
While I agree that there are optical tradeoffs that make the ASPH Summilux and 35/1.2 Nokton bigger, I would be surprised if light fall-off is an issue with the 35/1.4 Nokton. Has this ever been a complaint aired over the 40/1.4 Nokton?
ferider
Veteran
foto_fool said:While I agree that there are optical tradeoffs that make the ASPH Summilux and 35/1.2 Nokton bigger, I would be surprised if light fall-off is an issue with the 35/1.4 Nokton. Has this ever been a complaint aired over the 40/1.4 Nokton?
Actually, John, yes. And so does the pre-asph Summilux (see for instance Put's "Leica M lenses their sould and their secrets" available in PDF). The 40/1.4 vignettes very heavily under certain conditions, not clear to me when though. I always thought it was a polarization effect under certain light.
jamxo said:P.s. I have a mental image of Mr K reading this thread and doing a happy dance.![]()
I imagine him and the retailers thinking about the US price while reading this (not fixed yet) ...
Roland.
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