FrozenInTime
Well-known
I think there are many of us who hope there is a 40mm follow on model.
I always said to myself if Ricoh had a GR40, to with the GR28, I would buy both; the problem with Leica - that is not such so easy financially.
The other problem with 40mm ; people might stop buying Leica Ms - the CL syndrome.
The X and T already offer a 35mm.
f16sunshine
Moderator
Yes but with the greater DOF of an apsc multiplier. I think you know what I mean. Think of it this way... This new camera becomes an un cropped version of the x or t cameras. The lenses on each offering similar DOF characteristics for a given aperture the only difference being the FOV. There is not a shortage of fixed cameras with deep depth of field On a large sensor(GR, Nikon A, X100, Leica X and T , the sigma cameras if they can count here etc...) There is a void however of fixed cameras could provide a greatly varied DOF. The Sony RX1 is it for now and it's only f2/35mm .
Again... My agenda is for more subject isolation and greater control of DOF not another 28mm equiv where most of use shoot for great DOF.
Oh I get it... I wish it had a 50mm f/2 lens. However, not everything is made to cater to you or I (unfortunately). I'm not sure how popular a fixed 50mm would be. Leica probably knows better what people may want. Maybe a 50mm is its bread and butter in the M world.
anselwannab
Well-known
The big question is :
Does the rear screen flip around for selfies ?
That is why they chose 28mm is it not
How much would a Leica branded selfie-stick cost.....
danielsterno
making soup from mud
add another vote for a 40mm as the only possible way I would consider a Leica fixed lens digital investment- they would get off the herd mentality and be/think different and offer a unique offering….
f16sunshine
Moderator
I think you nailed it.
Summarit 50
Summicron 50
Apo Suumicron 50
Suumilux 50
Noctilux 50
Leica knows people want a 50mm.
GaryLH
Veteran
I wished it had been a 40 tooo.. Probably too expensive for me anyway . Reminds a bit like my Panasonic lx100 from a looks perspective (mirrorless rumor site photo). I wonder if they will implement the Ricoh crop settings and do a 35 and 50. W/ 24mp, unless u really need to print big, even 50 crop should yield enough mp for an 11x14 I would think.
Hope I c a Panasonic version
Gary
. Reminds a bit like my Panasonic lx100 from a looks perspective (mirrorless rumor site photo). I wonder if they will implement the Ricoh crop settings and do a 35 and 50. W/ 24mp, unless u really need to print big, even 50 crop should yield enough mp for an 11x14 I would think. Hope I c a Panasonic version
Gary
mingkookoo
Well-known
Hmmm, looking mighty nice.
f16sunshine
Moderator
Yeah that looks like a beauty !
Fingers and toes crossed that ...
It's for real
It's a success and leads to their FL's
flyalf
Well-known
Have to disagree, It really beats me how anyone can use a camera without a finder. A screen is ok for static subjects indoor if you close the curtains, but utter useless outdoor and for people photography.
Im crossing fingers for an OVF. No OVF, no practical value as a camera. But perhaps a replacement for glossyphones (Iphones)?
Ben Z
Veteran
I hope Leica sells a milion of them, but if they're counting on me it's only gonna be 999,999. The only thing Leica has that motivates me to pay their prices is that good old rangefinder. Take that out of the picture and I'd be looking at a more reasonably priced brand.
Kwesi
Well-known
I don't think that's why. I think Leica wants to be known as the " Think Different" camera brand. They have done the math and figured out they can sell enough at their price to make a modest profit and that works for them as far as maintaining brand awareness.
E__WOK
Well-known
I like everything except for the price and not being able to use M lenses.
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Perhaps they chose 28mm because the GR Digital has been so popular.
Or perhaps so that they are differentiated from the Sony RX1.
... Anyway, it looks very nice, like an X with a built in EVF essentially. Leica, make a 40 to 50 mm model next. Tempt me!
G
asiafish
Established
Since I'm still so happy with the Leica X typ 113, I see little real need for a 'Z' with with a 28mm EFOV lens, regardless of whether it has a FF or an APS-C sensor—it's simply not that important to me. If they were going to release this new camera with a 50mm EFoV lens, THEN I'd be first in line for it, would want the FF sensor, etc. I've wanted a Leica X-50mm since I bought the Leica X.
But, of course, all bets are off until Leica announces what they're going to release. And then I'll think about it. I've got more Leica gear now than I ever thought I'd accumulate. Do I want even more? Beyond the MM246 I've already got on order? Hard to say until I see what the product is...
I look forward to seeing what Leica is coming out with, whether I want to buy it or not.
G
Fellow X (and X Vario) user and I'm right with you on 50mm (or equiv on APS-C). My XV is almost always at 50mm, and more often than not it is a 50mm lens that adorns my M-E and M Monochrom.
I love the X, but wish it was a little longer focal length.
anselwannab
Well-known
Would Leica do a converter like Fuji does? Am I banned for thinking it?
Vobluda
Well-known
Few weeks after Ricoh will release GR II that will cost 1/3 of the Leica price.
And that will be at least equal to it.
And that will be at least equal to it.