Vince Lupo
Whatever
robert blu
quiet photographer
Thanks for your words but ...I do not need "to be forced" not to chimp. I simply switch the LCD off and decide not to chimp and it's already done
I'm strong in resisting to temptation !Easier and...cheaper
robert
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Unfortunately, no amount of ignoring the LCD changes the fact that there are a bunch of buttons, the LCD itself, etc, littering the back of an M10 so the ergonomics of use cannot be the same as the M10-D or M-D.
I suppose that if you want to use a half case, one with a door that completely covers the buttons and LCD (hard to do that with the four way controller) would get closer, albeit with a thicker body ... which for many was the reason to want the M10 anyway. :angel:
G
I suppose that if you want to use a half case, one with a door that completely covers the buttons and LCD (hard to do that with the four way controller) would get closer, albeit with a thicker body ... which for many was the reason to want the M10 anyway. :angel:
G
Godfrey
somewhat colored
When I was younger, my bicycle was a 1972 Cinellii Criterium Racer (from 1983 until 2004), supplemented on and off over the years by a mountain bike. I realized in 2004 that I simply could not ride the Cinelli anymore with my damaged hip, AND it needed a complete overhaul, so I sold it to a friend who restored it. And wept. Couldn't stand to see it sitting unused any more. I loved that bicycle.
Returning to two wheels in 2016, after hip replacement and all the other miseries of the years had been beaten down, was the biggest emotional moment of the past two decades for me. I lived two wheels on bikes and cycles for so much of my life, from 1965 to 2004, almost as long as I'd been into Photography. To lose it was to die, in a way; to have it back is returning to my life from the Crystal Cave.
G
D&A
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When I was younger, my bicycle was a 1972 Cinellii Criterium Racer (from 1983 until 2004), supplemented on and off over the years by a mountain bike. I realized in 2004 that I simply could not ride the Cinelli anymore with my damaged hip, AND it needed a complete overhaul, so I sold it to a friend who restored it. And wept. Couldn't stand to see it sitting unused any more. I loved that bicycle.
Returning to two wheels in 2016, after hip replacement and all the other miseries of the years had been beaten down, was the biggest emotional moment of the past two decades for me. I lived two wheels on bikes and cycles for so much of my life, from 1965 to 2004, almost as long as I'd been into Photography. To lose it was to die, in a way; to have it back is returning to my life from the Crystal Cave.
G
Yes, I couldn't imagine a life without riding/cycling. As the body and joints age, it keeps things going, aside from all the other obvious positive attributes. Found road riding actually was easier on the body that Mt. biking, but then again depends on the type of Mt bike riding (trail, technical etc.). Cinellii made some wonderful bikes but also known for their bars, cork tape etc. In some respects, it's sad to see the consolidation of bike companies into a few big conglomerates. Uniqueness and innovation sometimes takes a side step or even a step backwards. Guess the same can be said for photography companies over the years.
Taking along suitable camera along for the ride and documenting things along the way (or at the destination) is a natural of course. Although I like innovation, riding bikes from the late 80's to late 90's gives me a lot of pleasure, much like the M-D 262. It harkens back to a simpler era where the focus and concentration is on the pursuit of the activity as opposed to the technological aspects of the equipment.
Dave (D&A)
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Hmm. There seems to be plenty of innovation and such in bicycling today. I sure wouldn't want to be without today's disk brakes and strong, light carbon frames.
Although I ride a fat bike, I don't ride off paved road very often, nor does it have suspension etc. Mine is setup for the street, with semi-slick tires, and is rigid fore and aft, has excellent 1x11 drive, and outstanding hydraulic disk brakes. It's a simple machine, using the latest technology in materials science to hit my goals. The big tires make it comfortable and easy to ride on any road or trail, the modern shifter and brakes make it go and stop very nice, the carbon makes it light and handy.
It is similar to how I like cameras, in a way. The M-D 262 has just what I need and nothing more: minimizes distraction, excels in ergonomics, and its sensor lets me get what my lenses have to offer out into my photos. There's a similar aesthetic although I really don't think of it as "harkening back" ... I still have film M and R cameras, I don't have to imagine what I'm using to be like what I used to use because if I want to use that, I just take it out of the closet and use that. My love of the M-D is more functionalist than minimalist ... just like my use of the CL is functionalist first (it gives me the TTL viewfinder I need, works with the lenses and accessories I have, and has good ergonomics and state of the art sensor...).
G
Although I ride a fat bike, I don't ride off paved road very often, nor does it have suspension etc. Mine is setup for the street, with semi-slick tires, and is rigid fore and aft, has excellent 1x11 drive, and outstanding hydraulic disk brakes. It's a simple machine, using the latest technology in materials science to hit my goals. The big tires make it comfortable and easy to ride on any road or trail, the modern shifter and brakes make it go and stop very nice, the carbon makes it light and handy.
It is similar to how I like cameras, in a way. The M-D 262 has just what I need and nothing more: minimizes distraction, excels in ergonomics, and its sensor lets me get what my lenses have to offer out into my photos. There's a similar aesthetic although I really don't think of it as "harkening back" ... I still have film M and R cameras, I don't have to imagine what I'm using to be like what I used to use because if I want to use that, I just take it out of the closet and use that.
My love of the M-D is more functionalist than minimalist ... just like my use of the CL is functionalist first (it gives me the TTL viewfinder I need, works with the lenses and accessories I have, and has good ergonomics and state of the art sensor...). G
D&A
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Don't get me wrong, I like carbon frame bikes and ride them too, but there are always tradeoffs when going to the next level of tech...whether it be bikes or cameras. Disc brakes are wonderful for their stopping ability, especially in wet weather, but the reason they are not fully accepted especially in the road riding community, is the weight gain, which often offsets some of the weight advantage of carbon vs. other material. Same holds true for front or full suspension bikes vs. no suspension, vis-a-vis, weight gain. Sometimes the additional complexity of disc brakes for on the go repair, has some shying away. Then again there are many advantages, especially for stopping ability on downhill terrain, especially when weight of bike and rider is taken into consideration.
As light weight as carbon frames are, sometimes the preference is for the ride and handling characteristics of different frame materials, all else being near equal. This factor is especially so in the road bike community. It's subjective of course, just like similar models of cameras by different manufactures. Specs or associated components may be similar, but how its all laid out and put together and also how its implemented, can make a considerable difference. Same with handling characteristics...whether be bikes or cameras.
Likewise, in cameras, there are not only tradeoffs but consideration of many factors for the potential users, and much is dependent on intended usage, the photographic objectives and situation at hand and of course individual preferences. There is no right or wrong. I've heard many say that cameras like the M-D 262 do harken back to working with a digital camera much like their film based predictors. That may not how all look at it, but from feedback I've received, many do.
Dave (D&A)
As light weight as carbon frames are, sometimes the preference is for the ride and handling characteristics of different frame materials, all else being near equal. This factor is especially so in the road bike community. It's subjective of course, just like similar models of cameras by different manufactures. Specs or associated components may be similar, but how its all laid out and put together and also how its implemented, can make a considerable difference. Same with handling characteristics...whether be bikes or cameras.
Likewise, in cameras, there are not only tradeoffs but consideration of many factors for the potential users, and much is dependent on intended usage, the photographic objectives and situation at hand and of course individual preferences. There is no right or wrong. I've heard many say that cameras like the M-D 262 do harken back to working with a digital camera much like their film based predictors. That may not how all look at it, but from feedback I've received, many do.
Dave (D&A)
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Recent landscape work close to home. Table Bluff is a mesa above the north bank of the Eel River and its wetlands. Much pasture for dairy cattle and beef cattle, the reservation of the Wiyot (Eel) tribe, and a certain number (likely to increase) of dream homes.
I am dilatory about using Flickr so these images remain small as befits RFF gallery restrictions, though you can upsize them in the gallery. I'll also post them on LUF, which is not designed to privilege Flickr on relative image sizes. Just an FYI.
Eastward toward the Coast Range
Westward to the Pacific, both shot with the wrong lens for the job (ha ha), the ZM 35/2
A windbreak overlooking the Eel River wetlands with barn for scale, ZM 21/2.9
Back in the lowlands of Ferndale, a stand of alders along Coffee Creek on Highway 211
Cheerios (as we say over brekkies in the USA)
I am dilatory about using Flickr so these images remain small as befits RFF gallery restrictions, though you can upsize them in the gallery. I'll also post them on LUF, which is not designed to privilege Flickr on relative image sizes. Just an FYI.
Eastward toward the Coast Range
Westward to the Pacific, both shot with the wrong lens for the job (ha ha), the ZM 35/2
A windbreak overlooking the Eel River wetlands with barn for scale, ZM 21/2.9
Back in the lowlands of Ferndale, a stand of alders along Coffee Creek on Highway 211
Cheerios (as we say over brekkies in the USA)
Vince Lupo
Whatever
All beauties, particularly the colour ones.
shawn
Veteran
Half case covers all the buttons and four way controller on the rear panel. This is a M240 but the M10 rear panel is nearly the same. M10 has the advantage of the ISO dial. I just leave the camera on auto ISO for A and then it reverts to ISO 200 when I go to manual.
Definitely makes the camera a bit thicker but that works for my large hands. Esp. with the little bump on the front to help grip the camera. For me it feels more secure with the case on.
Shawn
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Vince Lupo
Whatever
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Oh, I think St. Francis could compose a nice little poetic sermon about those philodendrons climbing the green wall in the shadow of a cross. There is no poverty in things, only in our outer circumstance or inner condition. And your interiors are always a quiet joy of considered light and shadow.
Vince Lupo
Whatever
Perhaps you're revealing my guilty Catholic notions
I think my interiors might also indicate that I need to get out more!
robert blu
quiet photographer
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Robert, I *did* publish some good poems and short prose (and collected a fair quantity of them into 6 books) between 1975 and 2012, won prizes and fellowships, etc. The problem that arose, though—especially in the last 15 years of that life—was an interdependency of writing and alcohol. When I decided that my spiritual life and physical health were more important than literary ambition and reputation, I said Welcome recovery, Farewell writing life.
The muse of photography and the muse of music have been walking with me every day since then.
The muse of photography and the muse of music have been walking with me every day since then.
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Down Highway 211 aka Main Street to a dairy on Coffee Creek Road. ZM 35/2
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
The SW end of Main Street, Sunday, ZM 35/2
rhl-oregon
Cameras Guitars Wonders
Windbreak on Table Bluff, last light, ZM 21/2.8
airfrogusmc
Veteran
Beautiful!
MCTuomey
Veteran
^^^^^^
well done, robert ... and your website, too
well done, robert ... and your website, too