Godfrey
somewhat colored
yikes. i don' wanna know about teeth problems. :-(
dave lackey
Veteran
Speaking of teething problems...I still haven't been able to set up a workflow with LR 3.6. I hate having to get used to new software and wind up using Photoshop for most things although I have had a bit of success with individual images.
Anyone that can share their shooting profiles and workflow would be greatly appreciated and I imagine the PP would be similar with the X2 and LR4.:angel:
Anyone that can share their shooting profiles and workflow would be greatly appreciated and I imagine the PP would be similar with the X2 and LR4.:angel:
Dave, there are some interface changes and technology improvements in LR4 (4.1 is just out last week), that distinguish it from LR 3.x. In order to get up to speed on LR I bought Adobe's book Classroom in a Book for LR and worked my way through it. Very helpful.
I don't use any special profiles except to correct aberrations in some off-beat lenses. On import, I set AutoTone and do some keywording in the Library, look over the "take" and delete obvious junk while adding a few stars here and there for hopeful ones. In the Develop module I work my way down the right side controls; they're laid out for that sequence though it's not critical. When I'm done with a batch I Export them as full-res 16-bit TIFFs as the starting point for any further uses like scaling/jpeg conversions etc, and return to the TIFFs again later for different needs.
As I get more familiar with the program, I try using more of the tools when the need is apparent... I'm pretty comfortable with LR now, but I do recall being considerably intimidated and lost at first.
I don't use any special profiles except to correct aberrations in some off-beat lenses. On import, I set AutoTone and do some keywording in the Library, look over the "take" and delete obvious junk while adding a few stars here and there for hopeful ones. In the Develop module I work my way down the right side controls; they're laid out for that sequence though it's not critical. When I'm done with a batch I Export them as full-res 16-bit TIFFs as the starting point for any further uses like scaling/jpeg conversions etc, and return to the TIFFs again later for different needs.
As I get more familiar with the program, I try using more of the tools when the need is apparent... I'm pretty comfortable with LR now, but I do recall being considerably intimidated and lost at first.
Do you have an idea of what type of workflow you are looking for Dave? What hasn't jived with you so far?
Godfrey
somewhat colored
LR4 is quite different from LR3 with respect to the raw converter and adjustment controls. I suggest working your way through Julianne Kost's excellent Lightroom 4 Tutorial Videos to learn the features and a suggested workflow. They're free (funded by Adobe, of course) and she does an excellent job of presenting LR in a very digestible way:
http://jkost.com/lightroom.html
robert blu
quiet photographer
Hi Dave, it seems a bad time for our teeth...I had also an excraction just short before going to Prague, thanks to God it was not difficult or bad.
About LR I'm still on LR3 but I think I'll go to 4 . I second the suggestion to follow the Julianne Kost's tutorial which are simple and effective. Just for your information last week I met a couple of photojournalist from Moskow and they both said that lately most of their PP was done in LR4 because effective and quick and they almost abandoned the PS CSxx.
ciao, robert
About LR I'm still on LR3 but I think I'll go to 4 . I second the suggestion to follow the Julianne Kost's tutorial which are simple and effective. Just for your information last week I met a couple of photojournalist from Moskow and they both said that lately most of their PP was done in LR4 because effective and quick and they almost abandoned the PS CSxx.
ciao, robert
dave lackey
Veteran
Hey, thanks for the link....just checked into it and looking forward to going through these.
dave lackey
Veteran
Hi, Robert..sorry you are also having tooth problems. Yikes. It hurts...and then later, my wallet hurts as the restoration must begin in a month or so...
Maybe next time I will have the courage to get some photos whilst sitting in the chair. The X1 fits perfectly under my outer shirt across my chest and will hardly be a problem to document this wonderful experience.
dave lackey
Veteran
Shade
Well-known
Im abit disappointed specification wise, that the upgrade was only "this" much. I was expecting at least a faster lens. I cant say anything about sensors or flash or others as I havent tried one myself, but its a but of a letdown that the x2 didnt pop out as something "wow", but more as "oh yeah its an upgrade"..
Godfrey
somewhat colored
Digital cameras are so good now that the "new camera WOW" factor should indeed be winding down. I prefer incremental upgrades and longer development scales—better, more reliable, more nuanced cameras come of that then big WOW WOW steps all the time.
Leica has nearly always only done incremental improvements with very few big jumps in their products. The X1->X2 follows in that tradition.
dave lackey
Veteran
And that is where marketing has gone in the past 5-10 years. Never before in history has the "wow" factor been the only determining factor of whether or not to buy a product.
Specification measurebation is rampant and has absolutely no place in the real world. What you need to do is borrow one. Buy one. Just use one and then make your own determination based on YOUR needs. There is much more to purchasing than reading and discussing the item(s) online...virtualy anything is never as good as the real anything.
robert blu
quiet photographer
What you need to do is borrow one. Buy one. Just use one and then make your own determination based on YOUR needs. There is much more to purchasing than reading and discussing the item(s) online...virtualy anything is never as good as the real anything.
I agree with you, but sometimes it is not easy. Where I live in the shops sometimes they even do not switch the camera on (saying sorry batteries are not charged but I make sure it is a good camera!). Time ago I was tempted by the m9 and ask if I could rent one for a couple of days: this was only possible in Solms. In another shop they even did not take the camera out of the box in order not to depreciate it (I understand the salesman reason but I'm not ready to pay money, a lot of money to buy something on which I'm not sure). I'm thinking to complement my x1 with a camera with a medium tele like it could be the OM-D with the 45mm lens (90 eq) but before buying it I want to test, shoot, go home and work the file on my computer. But it is difficult, most of sellers think you should just buy because they say it is a good camera! Same when thinking of an Fuji x1 pro ! I was just discussing with some friends about how difficult is to test something (not only cameras) before buying. It is a difficult world...
robert
PS: I still like my x1 !
dave lackey
Veteran
Yes, it is difficult to find cameras to try out. Here in Atlanta, there is not a single Leica dealer! We have to drive the Interstates a full day to find a shop in south Florida!
That is why it is so important to start an RFF or similar regional group. Not only do you get to check out other folks' cameras and lenses but the friendship and informational resource is amazing!
I have held and shot a couple of M9s because of the personal interaction whereas if we had not set up an RFF regional meet, I would still be wondering what an M9 was! Same way with a lot of other cameras over the past couple of years...It is not possible to buy something to try it out but I can always meet up with others and we can swap gear for a short time shooting!
dave lackey
Veteran
Ever Want a Stealth Camera?
Ever Want a Stealth Camera?
Well, the Leica X is definitely a stealth camera!:angel:
I can wear it under my suit jacket, under my outer shirt, in my pocket (not my jeans, though), in my free hand with just a finger cuff from OpTech, in my mini fanny pack, and a dozen other ways and no one even notices that I have a camera with me.
Add in the black A&A silk strap, the black camera color with black half case, black t-shirt/jacket and I am good to go with the camera on zone focus!
Better even than my IIIF as it is not only much heavier but the rigid 50mm lens is a pain compared to the collapsible X1 lens!
Ever Want a Stealth Camera?
Well, the Leica X is definitely a stealth camera!:angel:
I can wear it under my suit jacket, under my outer shirt, in my pocket (not my jeans, though), in my free hand with just a finger cuff from OpTech, in my mini fanny pack, and a dozen other ways and no one even notices that I have a camera with me.
Add in the black A&A silk strap, the black camera color with black half case, black t-shirt/jacket and I am good to go with the camera on zone focus!
Better even than my IIIF as it is not only much heavier but the rigid 50mm lens is a pain compared to the collapsible X1 lens!
Specification measurebation is rampant and has absolutely no place in the real world. What you need to do is borrow one. Buy one. Just use one and then make your own determination based on YOUR needs. There is much more to purchasing than reading and discussing the item(s) online...virtualy anything is never as good as the real anything.
I agree Dave. Sometimes lack of features, simplicity, and comfort is a better reason to buy than pure specs on paper. I'm a big fan of ergonomics and usually that is my number 1 concern. Excited to receive this camera next week. Should be fun.
dave lackey
Veteran
Dale Photo has black and silver in stock now!
jcrutcher
Veteran
Dave
Thanks for the finger strap idea, In put one on my x1 and it helped the pocket ability. Have one standing by for the x2 which should be here tomorrow.
Jim
Thanks for the finger strap idea, In put one on my x1 and it helped the pocket ability. Have one standing by for the x2 which should be here tomorrow.
Jim
dave lackey
Veteran
Can't wait to hear word from you, Jim. Post some photos soon!
Oh, a little tip I found today about the so-called X1 lag....no problem when MF is locked at a predetermined 8-infinity setting. Or any other setting. I did not know the MF locked setting could be used even after going back to AF and shooting other images. Glad to find that the lag time is virtually non-existing when using the MF this way. I just frame with the OVF and shoot.:angel:
robert blu
quiet photographer
Interesting tip dave, sometimes (not oft) I have a problem of this kind...I'll try it.
robert
robert