Well, I've never owned a digital camera, not even a smart phone, but just like aeturnum i wonder what the bashing is all about when at least 90% on these pages are 'test shots' taken with recently acquired gear that will be sold a week later (maybe someone should make a song...). That's nothing against rff - it's a gear forum after all and a nice one. Most of the photos you find online are useless, no matter if taken by a phone or a Leica loaded with Tri-x (and this includes my own photos, as well) - just seems to make people feel better to make fun of the instagram and lomo crowd...