M 240 Recall

Crap. I picked mine up on April 3rd. Looks like I'll be getting an email...

And no, I'm not a dentist. I don't even own a car.
 
Leica has only 60 years of experience with this M body. It's not rocket science as sensors or other electronical stuff inside. Concerning 'forgotten' recalls Leica did nothing in terms of sensors, broken shutters, SD cards etc. Just wait and see and repair or exchange, that's all.....
 
Ron (Netherlands) said:
No they didn't do that at all, that is the point. They first stated it was only one camera that suffered from this and the owner was blamed by them for bad handling: re the LUF site :bang:
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What prompted this post?:confused: That was an out-of-guaranty M9 and has nothing to do with a recall of the M. And Leica reconsidered too...
 
I hear this in my head, the tune is Judy Collins' "Send in the Clowns" ...

Ain't Leica rich?
Are we a pair?
Me here at last on the ground,
You in mid-air..
Where are the trolls?

Ain't Leica bliss?
Don't you approve?
One who keeps tearing around,
One who can't move...
Where are the trolls?
Send in the trolls.

Just when I'd stopped opening doors,
Finally knowing the one that I wanted was yours.
Making my entrance again with my usual flair
Sure of my lines...
No one is there.

Don't Leicas love farce?
My fault, I fear.
I thought that you'd want what I want...
Sorry, my dear!
And where are the trolls
Send in the trolls
Don't bother, they're here.

Isn't it rich?
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late in my career.
And where are the trolls?
There ought to be trolls...
Well, maybe next year.


G
 
silverbullet said:
Leica has only 60 years of experience with this M body. It's not rocket science as sensors or other electronical stuff inside. Concerning 'forgotten' recalls Leica did nothing in terms of sensors, broken shutters, SD cards etc. Just wait and see and repair or exchange, that's all.....
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Sorry, which M body?

There's quite a difference between film Ms and the M8/M8.2; another massive difference between the M8/8.2 and the M9; and yet another big difference between the M9 and M240.

Perhaps you know more about rocket science than I, but one distinct resemblance between a digi-M and a rocket (or at least a satellite, which is where my few friends in the field have worked) is that you want to make both as small and light as possible. By that criterion, DSLRs are even further from rocket science.

Cheers,

R.
 
Roger Hicks said:
Of course you are a heavy professional user who is completely familiar with digi-Ms and has been using them since they came out, and you have access to information about everyone who has ever bought them.

Are they perfect? No. Are they as bad as people like you maintain? No.

Cheers,

R.
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Yes, Roger. Yes.

Your sarcasm really falls flat. What reall makes you think that I'm ignorant on the matter (or less knowledgeable then you?). You're losing pointd And credibility.
 
Clint Troy said:
Yes, Roger. Yes.

Your sarcasm really falls flat. What reall makes you think that I'm ignorant on the matter (or less knowledgeable then you?). You're losing pointd And credibility.
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Why do I think you know less than I? Of course I don't. I'm just guessing. Can you point me to your web site? Or publications? Or real name?

Cheers,

R.
 
And that kind of service, ladies and gentlemen, is part of why you must pay so much for these cameras. Congratulations Leica.
 
Ron (Netherlands) said:
No they didn't do that at all, that is the point. They first stated it was only one camera that suffered from this and the owner was blamed by them for bad handling: re the LUF site :bang:
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So you think a company should initiate a recall immediately based on a single incident? That's ludicrous. There would be literally nothing keeping people from abusing that policy. Leica would be out of business by next week.

The point is that Nikon or Canon wouldn't even recognize the problem exists until the affected cameras were out of warranty, and then hide behind that. They've done it a million times before.

Now, I don't think this speaks necessarily to any strength of character on the part of Leica; when your entire market is people who are willing to pay $8k for $1k's worth of camera with an M mount flange stuck on the front, you don't have the option of upsetting your customers. If Leica releases a body that fails again, they're out of the consumer camera business. Considering how tiny the M rangefinder market is, and how thin their profit margins must be given they hand-assemble precision products in Europe in 2013, it's amazing the M8 wasn't the last M.
 
What Leica needs is some good old fashioned " apples to apples" competition.
Come on Bessa, Epson, Fuji... I don't have a problem with their M prices, but I do wish
That I could comparison shop before I plunk down my 8k.
Regarding this recall, I think they have behaved admirably.
 
silverbullet said:
Leica has only 60 years of experience with this M body. It's not rocket science as sensors or other electronical stuff inside. Concerning 'forgotten' recalls Leica did nothing in terms of sensors, broken shutters, SD cards etc. Just wait and see and repair or exchange, that's all.....
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If you can do better, design and manufacture a FF digital rangefinder compatible with 60 years worth of lenses that is better. And support it better than Leica does for the next 60 years.

I'll buy one after a suitable time of your camera being in the field to see if you're living up to your high falutin' sentiments.

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dcsang said:
I don't know Joe.. I think most people have a sense of humour when they know something is humourous.

Sometimes one's sense of humour doesn't translate well online.

That's why, when I'm joking about something I put a bunch of :D :D :D - so that people can see I'm chuckling/laughing/smiling.

I think, perhaps, when people read your post they may just see a statement without any suggestion of humour.

Just my take on it.

Cheers,
Dave
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I rarely use emoticons...
and frankly, folks can interpret me as they please...
 
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