M-E (typ240)

[Huss]

So are you saying that if someone took away your M-cameras and gave you a GFX50R in it's place, that you couldn't make it work for you? This isn't an apples-to-oranges situation, it's more like comparing two different varieties of apple.

No, because I would never take that massive lump anywhere with me.

You're right, it's not apples to orange situation, more like an apple to a watermelon.

Size comparison:

http://j.mp/2Yo7uQo

The Fujis are freakin massive in comparison, with much slower lenses.

 

[o-Tom-atic]

What about the seize of the M240 (M-E) vs the M10? Isn’t the M10 more like the size old classic cameras? Is the chubbier M240 awkward to hold? Just asking because I never had the chance to hold any of them.

 

[Bill Blackwell]

What about the seize of the M240 (M-E) vs the M10? Isn’t the M10 more like the size old classic cameras? Is the chubbier M240 awkward to hold? Just asking because I never had the chance to hold any of them.

If you're used to an M film body the chunkier digital M will get some minor getting used to. I adjusted quickly and now use my M2 and M-P 240 interchangeably without thinking about it. All digital Leica M cameras, excepting the M10 variants, are approximately 4mm thicker with height roughly equivalent to an M6TTL or M7.
https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/leica-m10-vs-leica-m-240/

 

[Emile de Leon]

Does anybody have experience shooting video with this model?
What is the video time limit in HD..?
Can it shoot 30 min straight..or less..?

 

[Bill Blackwell]

Video is very sharp and clear, but the sound quality sucks! Even with the optional microphone attached to the hot shoe, sound is terrible.

 

[Emile de Leon]

Video is very sharp and clear, but the sound quality sucks! Even with the optional microphone attached to the hot shoe, sound is terrible.

Sound quality doesnt matter to me fortunately..as I use an external recorder if I want better sound. But if you run the M240 sound thru a music program..you can probably dress it up a bit..
No one knows video length?

 

[Bill Blackwell]

... No one knows video length?

Limiting factors are 30 minutes or a maximum file size of 4GB. When I played with the video feature on my M-P 240 I used the maximum image quality setting and always hit the size limit first (~20 minutes).

 

[Emile de Leon]

When I played with the video feature on my M-P 240 I used the maximum image quality setting and always hit the size limit first (~20 minutes).

Thx Bill! I needed that info to make my decision.

 

[Out to Lunch]

Leica M-E (typ 240)

Leica M-E (typ 240)

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1488686-REG/leica_10981_leica_m_e_typ_240.html


Available early July at $ 3,995. Any comments?


Cheers, Peter

 

[Bingley]

I’m interested...

 

[Out to Lunch]

I just scrolled through the BH page and it appears the camera works with the Leica Visoflex EVF2.

 

[airfrogusmc]

I have not shot an M10, but based on what some users claim, the picture quality is similar to the M240, with only one additional stop of *usable* dynamic range (there are other differences not related to photo quality, such as marginally thinner body, simplified menus, addition of ISO dial, improved viewfinder, reduced battery life). Based on these reports, one might argue that either the M240 or the new ME are the best value. I have an MP240 going on three months now that I bought used, but if I were in the market for an M right now, new or used, I'd look hard at the ME. Two year warranty brings a lot of peace of mind.

I have both an M 262 and a couple of M 10s and the M 10 is more than a stop better in low light.
20,000 ISO

The low light capabilities and the lack of any shutter lag in the M 10 are two reason I bought the M 10.

And for video I wouldn't shoot video with a rangefinder or a DSLR. They make REALLY good video cameras for video. I am glad they left it off the M 262 and M 10.

 

[jsrockit]

A very old camera for $4000 and people are excited like it’s some kind of excellent deal? I get it... it’s the cheapest new digital m ever, but it’s cheaper for a reason. Once you start thinking of paying $4,000, it may be better to go all in and get the body you truly want.

 

[Emile de Leon]

A very old camera for $4000 and people are excited like it’s some kind of excellent deal? I get it... it’s the cheapest new digital m ever, but it’s cheaper for a reason. Once you start thinking of paying $4,000, it may be better to go all in and get the body you truly want.

Problem is..they dont make the exact body I really want..and when they finally get around to it..I'm gonna be so old..I wont be able to sqeeze the trigger...lol..
As well..as it will be 10K by then..maybe more..

 

[Keith]

The local camera shop here has it listed at $4695 CDN. The 262 is "on sale" for $6195 CDN. The M-E is almost a bargain...

Can't remember the last time I saw any Leica offering and the word 'Bargain' used in the same sentence! 😛

 

[Ko.Fe.]

A very old camera for $4000 and people are excited like it’s some kind of excellent deal? I get it... it’s the cheapest new digital m ever, but it’s cheaper for a reason. Once you start thinking of paying $4,000, it may be better to go all in and get the body you truly want.

🙄 OK.


If I want new, in the fancy Leica box and with fancy new camera registration digital M body for as low as possible price?
Which body I'll get?

"Very old camera for..." is not the argument with Leica. It is never been an argument.

M8 used costs more than "very old" new back then A7 and "very old" A7 mark something. Used "very old" M8 still close to the "who still needs it?" new Xpro2 and "already forgotten" new RF.

In 2016 I had choice which body to get for $3000, I was able to find original new M-E (due to exchange rate). It is 2019 and I'm happy every time I hold it in my hands. I had many cameras in my hands and I didn't have motion to own and use them. All of those X, Z, R and Whatelse are only new then they are reviewed by first time in DPR. But once they are in the stores, they are nothing but "yesterday". Just like any "new" hondyota.

 

[Ko.Fe.]

...

And for video I wouldn't shoot video with a rangefinder or a DSLR. They make REALLY good video cameras for video. I am glad they left it off the M 262 and M 10.

Sure, then I'm on event with mobile truck it is big and huge cameras. Huge once don't even record the video, they are sending it via fiber to recording device at 180 fps.
But it is not always like this with video.

I have seen local media taking interviews with mobile phone and microphones rig. I have seen interviews taken by big names and good connections companies with EOS FF DLSRs. For tens of millions audience.

 

[benlees]

Can't remember the last time I saw any Leica offering and the word 'Bargain' used in the same sentence! 😛

If there is any truth to this (in Leica-speak) it lies somewhere between "discriminating taste" and "everything is relative"

 

[jja]

The low light capabilities and the lack of any shutter lag in the M 10 are two reason I bought the M 10.

I have not noticed shutter lag on my MP240, and I've used it to shoot sports (it's my only digital camera). I don't feel like I've missed a shot due to shutter lag (many misses due to "shooter lag"). I'd be interested to hear more about this.

Regarding high ISO performance, I'm glad there is a noticeable improvement in the M10. There have been only a few instances where I've really wished for anything above 3200. Can ISO 6400 on the M240 be manipulated to provide satisfactory results?

 

[ptpdprinter]

Regarding high ISO performance, I'm glad there is a noticeable improvement in the M10. There have been only a few instances where I've really wished for anything above 3200. Can ISO 6400 on the M240 be manipulated to provide satisfactory results?

There is no indication that this is a new sensor. Since the run is limited to 750 units, it is probably just left over 2012 sensors. It's like buying NOS.