Canada march meet up?

Calzone said:
Philippe,

Using a filter cuts down the clipping on both ends of the histogram, especially to the right (high lights), to the extent that I can see using minimally a yellow filter all the time under daylight conditions. There seems to be a bias where 2/3rds of the clipping of highlights is effected while only about 1/3rd on the black end.

Cal
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Cal - Yes , exactly . I've been using an orange B+W filter in strong light because it reduces highlights and darkens the sky . I liken this to cutting development time . It gives you a similar "compressed" look -but at the same time midtones are emphasized and overall contrast is greater than with an underdeveloped negative (or with a normal MM file.) I couldn't quite put my finger on in but I think you're spot on . In normal light ,I also use a middle yellow filter . Thanks Ph.
 
lamefrog said:
Cal - Yes , exactly . I've been using an orange B+W filter in strong light because it reduces highlights and darkens the sky . I liken this to cutting development time . It gives you a similar "compressed" look -but at the same time midtones are emphasized and overall contrast is greater than with an underdeveloped negative (or with a normal MM file.) I couldn't quite put my finger on in but I think you're spot on . In normal light ,I also use a middle yellow filter . Thanks Ph.
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Ph,

You got it. It seems to me that the Monochrome sensor likes filters, and even on one indoor exposure at night I used a 2X yellow and what emerged was all this fine detail that I associate with medium format that I call "texture." It seems that when I can get/hit that sweet spot the resolution, the contrast range, and the fine detail are all there, and the resemblance to medium format is all there.

So far I can't reliably control this exposure combination, but when it happens it is like magic. Surprisingly this happens more often under diffused or subdued lighting more often.

I liken this to when in film the perfect exposure accompanied with perfect development yields negatives that simply pop with ideal snappy contrast that require only straight printing. To me the images shot with filters look more organic.

Funny thing is that many B&W shooters do not use filters on their cameras to control contrast, and know that it has been reported that Ansel Adams almost always shot with a yellow filter on his view cameras.

Cal
 
Wish I could go. I'm scheduled to work. in fact, considering that I now work part time at the Home Depot, I don't think I'll ever have a Sunday off ever again. God, I already hate that job so much and I haven't even started sales yet.
Sorry to sidetrack the conversation.
Have a good time, folks.

Phil Forrest
 
Phil_F_NM said:
Wish I could go. I'm scheduled to work. in fact, considering that I now work part time at the Home Depot, I don't think I'll ever have a Sunday off ever again. God, I already hate that job so much and I haven't even started sales yet.
Sorry to sidetrack the conversation.
Have a good time, folks.

Phil Forrest
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Phil,

I hate my job, and I particularly hate my boss if that's any consolation to you. He is really crazed and goes into panic mode all the time. A lot of his thinking makes no sense and his logic is twisted...

but I'm glad I have a job and good benefits with a retirement.

Cal
 
No benefits, no retirement, not enough to live off of since HD is mostly staffed by part-timers like myself with variable schedules.
I'm glad I have something but it's about 1/3 what I need to survive now. I just wish I could find one job that I could live of.

Phil Forrest
 
Phil,

Call me a Ho, but I just do it for the money. It's been a while since I had the perfect job, working in research labs with really smart people, doing impossible things.

My current job is very routine to the point that it is hard to stay awake, and also I work with people that lack social skills, that live small isolated lives, that are not involved at all in the real world, and overall I regard as boring people who are not really alive.

Sadly I lost my perfect job at the end of the Cold War, and sadly the world isn't any better.

Cal
 
Phil_F_NM said:
I don't need a perfect job, I just need a single job that will keep me from being homeless again.

Phil Forrest
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Phil,

Same here. Over the decades I've been in pretty destitute situations a few times. The point of my previous post is that my perfect job is gone forever, and I have little hope of finding a replacement. I acknowledge that times have changed for the worse.

At 55 years old the future is is more uncertain than ever.

Cal
 
jsrockit said:
I'm sorry if this is uninformed, but the military doesn't have any programs to help veterans find jobs?
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I don't qualify for the VA programs because I did the *right* thing and haven't been arrested or institutionalized; I went to college, finished my degree and have held a few part time jobs in the last 7 years. The degree disqualifies me for everything except Sec. 8 housing if I were living on the street. As I have a roof over my head (even though I'm living in the storage room in my friend's apartment) I don't qualify for anything.
They DO have vocational rehab which is training towards some other job. It also serves as a fund for school and I was hoping to use this to get a Master's Degree.

Phil Forrest
 
jsrockit said:
I'm sorry if this is uninformed, but the military doesn't have any programs to help veterans find jobs?
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Back during the Cold War at Grumman, a military defense contractor, about 75% of the people who worked there were veterans. There was a standard of having a preference for hiring veterans.

I think there are also still preferences given to applicants for certain government jobs like firemen, police and postal workers.

Sadly there are a lot of homeless veterans.

Cal
 
It's because veterans don't usually have advanced degrees that the big companies want their workers to have these days.
Already established and proven workers are grandfathered in but if i were to want to work in weather, my previous specialty, I would need a PhD to even get my foot in the door.
As for photography, I have no idea who would want me besides the FBI or other law enforcement but I can't do pathology, that would kill me.
I don't have enough education to teach, either; unless my old school has an opening, in which case I can be a TA.

Phil Forrest
 
jsrockit said:
Unfortunately, that may have to do with mental health more than economics though I would guess.
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IMHO my guess is that there's a little bit of the chicken and the egg factor happening. People who are suffering or need help need support; or else eventually bad outcomes become self fulfilling.

Perhaps economics is just plain bad government policy, or perhaps government policy is just bad economics.

Cal
 
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