charjohncarter
Veteran
It appears from what I can read that TomA was very lucky to get some of the 'New TMax400' or TMY-2. I have been trying to find a source to purchase TMY-2 but have come up with nothing. A couple of reports said that it will not be 'generally available until December.' So we have to wait. If someone finds a source; please post.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
The rolls that were handed out at LHSA had boxes clearly marked "Not For Resale" so they were obviously part of the press kit for the introduction.
The edge marking on the film is KODAK 400-2 TMY.
It is good enough that I am going to get a batch of it, once it is available and use it side by side with my Tri X. It is not a revoilutionary new film, rather it is a tweaked version of the old emulsion and they have obviously looked at improved details in the highlights and less blocked or muddied shadows.
I am at the moment shooting with a MP and the 50f1.4 ASPH and doing New Tmax/Old Tmax/Tri X/ Delta 400/ APX 400 S and once I get a batch together (two of each) I will do another run, one in Rodinal 1:50 for about 11-12 min and the other 5 rolls in HC 110 in dilution H for 10-11 min (any suggestions on this combo as i am not a 35mm/HC 110 user). The TRi X is in there as a baseline - I know what that one is supposed to look like.I will be shooting with the MP meter as a guide, rather than imposing my own estimates of exposure,
This will leave me another 4 rolls of Tmax-2 for fine tuning exposure/developing. I will keep you posted on further development (pun intended).
The edge marking on the film is KODAK 400-2 TMY.
It is good enough that I am going to get a batch of it, once it is available and use it side by side with my Tri X. It is not a revoilutionary new film, rather it is a tweaked version of the old emulsion and they have obviously looked at improved details in the highlights and less blocked or muddied shadows.
I am at the moment shooting with a MP and the 50f1.4 ASPH and doing New Tmax/Old Tmax/Tri X/ Delta 400/ APX 400 S and once I get a batch together (two of each) I will do another run, one in Rodinal 1:50 for about 11-12 min and the other 5 rolls in HC 110 in dilution H for 10-11 min (any suggestions on this combo as i am not a 35mm/HC 110 user). The TRi X is in there as a baseline - I know what that one is supposed to look like.I will be shooting with the MP meter as a guide, rather than imposing my own estimates of exposure,
This will leave me another 4 rolls of Tmax-2 for fine tuning exposure/developing. I will keep you posted on further development (pun intended).
venchka
Veteran
XTOL? D-76? I ask because I have 11 1 gallon bags of D-76 and would also like to try a 5 liter batch of XTOL. Rodinal also figures into to my future film developing plans, either alone or in a Rodinal+XTOL cocktail.
charjohncarter
Veteran
TomA, my time for Tri-X at E.I. 400 is 13 minutes, HC-110h, 68F, 30 sec. at first then 3 inversion per minute. That way be long as I haven't shot it at that E.I. for a long time. And I remember developing this time for scanning. The one time that I developed 'old' Tmax400 in HC-110h, I used 12 minutes everything else the same as above.
photophorous
Registered User
Tom A said:Paul, I have used a fair bit of Delta 400 and 100 over the years. My only problem with them here in Vancouver's water is that they cause "foaming" in the tank - to the point that the lid almost pops off! Tried to ask Ilford about it, but they claimed that this was something they never heard about!
The Delta 400 is very similar to the Presto 400 - slightly higher contrast, but very sharp grain and nice tones.
Unforunately, Ilford's new management has decided to cash in on film and locally a roll of 36 exp. Delta 100/400 is close to $8! Fuji 400 is about $5 and Tri X is less, though not by much! Not a huge deal if you shoot 50-100 rolls/year, but it hurts if you are shooting 700-800 rolls per year!
Wow, that's strange, Tom. I've only shot one roll of Delta 400 and I had no problems. I've been wanting to find a good fine grain 400 speed film for times when I don't want the TriX look, and I had about decided to buy a bunch of Delta 400 when I heard about the new Tmax 400. Now I have to compare. Maybe I'll check out Presto too.
Thanks,
Paul
photophorous
Registered User
mike goldberg said:Does anyone know just when the new version is available?
Kodak's questions and answers PDF says "Conversion will occur on a stock-turnover basis, beginning in December 2007."
charjohncarter
Veteran
Here is the 'new data sheet' on the new TMax400:
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/bw/tMax400.jhtml?id=0.2.26.14.17.14&lc=en
Click on 'tech pub'
This was just posted a day ago.
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/bw/tMax400.jhtml?id=0.2.26.14.17.14&lc=en
Click on 'tech pub'
This was just posted a day ago.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Just posted a couple of shots with Kodak 400-2TMY in D76 1:1 for 11 min. Go to our Flickr site and use the tag "Kodak 400-2TMY" and you get shots done with a variety of developers.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
I did another roll of the new Tmax 400. This time in HC 110. I used dilution H (almost) with 30ml syrup to 1800 ml of water ( a 1:60) and 12.5 mimutes (30 sec initial agitation and then 3 turns/tap every 60 sec). My "reference" rolls (TMY/Delta) looked fine and the new Tmax a bit thin. I might try the same time and a 1:50 dilution for the next batch. Look on our Flickr and tag: Kodak TMY-2 400.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Did a trial run with the new Tmax (Flickr tag "KODAK 400-2TMY) in HC 110 and changed the dilution to 1:50 (30ml raw HC 110 in 1500 ml). Same time as the 1:60 run (12.5 min. 30sec initial agitation and 3 turns every 60sec after that).
The TMY-2 negs looks better, the Tri X a bit dense and the Delta 400 showed not much difference. The new Tmax looks like it needs a small "push" - maybe 60 sec in HC 110 from the "old" style.
My other reference film, Agfapan 400S (thin polyesther based surveillance film) does not really give a damned in what it is souped!
Still have a couple of "New" tmax left. IF my store here has some Tmax developer in stock, I might try it with that. I was never a great fan of that developer, but in the name of "research etc.....
I know I haven't tried it with Xtol, never liked that soup and since the only packages available here are 5 liter bags, I would have to use it on other films or risk "Xtol death" in a couple of days! Too much of a hassle in my opinion. Maybe do the last run with Rodinal 1:75/15 minutes.
The TMY-2 negs looks better, the Tri X a bit dense and the Delta 400 showed not much difference. The new Tmax looks like it needs a small "push" - maybe 60 sec in HC 110 from the "old" style.
My other reference film, Agfapan 400S (thin polyesther based surveillance film) does not really give a damned in what it is souped!
Still have a couple of "New" tmax left. IF my store here has some Tmax developer in stock, I might try it with that. I was never a great fan of that developer, but in the name of "research etc.....
I know I haven't tried it with Xtol, never liked that soup and since the only packages available here are 5 liter bags, I would have to use it on other films or risk "Xtol death" in a couple of days! Too much of a hassle in my opinion. Maybe do the last run with Rodinal 1:75/15 minutes.
lZr
L&M
Amazing results. Thanks for sharing this beauty stuff
goo0h
Well-known
I don't think I've seen this posted yet. Haven't had a chance to listen to it, but sounds interesting:
Interview with John Sexton and Kodak's Scott DiSabato:
http://www.photonewstoday.com/?p=9096
Interview with John Sexton and Kodak's Scott DiSabato:
http://www.photonewstoday.com/?p=9096
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
I even saw a display of the new T Max 400 at Walmart.
Chris
Chris
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
At Wal-Mart? Wow.
Tom A
RFF Sponsor
Chris, did they have it for sale or was it a promo for "coming attractions"?
mike goldberg
The Peaceful Pacific
Hi all,
Mike here saying, good morning from Jerusalem.
Tom, I went to flickr, and CascadeCreek is a stunning capture. Rolleijoe's idea of using HC-110 in a 1:50 dilution, like Rodinal, is great and easy to remember. I'll have to run a test because Covington sets up different dilutions for the American HC-110 syrup, and the European [Kodak #500 1466].
QUESTION: What is "compensating effect?"
Mike here saying, good morning from Jerusalem.
Tom, I went to flickr, and CascadeCreek is a stunning capture. Rolleijoe's idea of using HC-110 in a 1:50 dilution, like Rodinal, is great and easy to remember. I'll have to run a test because Covington sets up different dilutions for the American HC-110 syrup, and the European [Kodak #500 1466].
QUESTION: What is "compensating effect?"
Trius
Waiting on Maitani
Mike: A compensating developer has the effect of reducing contrast. It is similar to N- development wherein you reduce time to lower highlight values when the original scene was too great to print straight onto a particular grade of paper, without sacrificing mid-tone and low value separation. High dilutions of Rodinal, HC-110, etc., for example, has a compensating effect.
ChrisPlatt
Thread Killer
In October Walmart in Norman OK had perhaps 50-100 rolls.
It seemed out of place as they had no other black and white.
They can't have sold much. A distributor's mistake, maybe?
Chris
It seemed out of place as they had no other black and white.
They can't have sold much. A distributor's mistake, maybe?
Chris
charjohncarter
Veteran
It still is not on the B&H website.
David Goldfarb
Well-known
B&H might not distinguish old from new TMY on the website.
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