PKR
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Ha, yeah.
I'm currently working with a new FF 40 MP Dogmatic 4000D. "It solves all of your image problems, all of the time." TM
Hope you're well emraphoto, pkr
No, No, No! Your Gear is ALL Wrong!
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Ha, yeah.
I'm currently working with a new FF 40 MP Dogmatic 4000D. "It solves all of your image problems, all of the time." TM
Hope you're well emraphoto, pkr
fireblade
Vincenzo.
adietrich
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escalating...
escalating...
Medium format FTW, but obviously the Rolleiflex T is superior.
escalating...
Medium format FTW, but obviously the Rolleiflex T is superior.
rangefinderlove123
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Go on Nick, tell us what's so obsolete about small format film?
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I like these types of threads ... you can start at the latest post and work your way backwards to the beginning or you can start at the first post and work your way through to the end.
Like a palindrome they are are the same either way ... take your pick!
Like a palindrome they are are the same either way ... take your pick!
NickTrop
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Oh c'mon. I was the biggest film advocate out there, insisted on shooting it and defended it as "superior" well into the digital era. That was me. Had film cameras -- mostly rangefinders, in every corner of my man-cave. Rolled my own on spent cartridges given to from the (closed -- now a bird feeder store) camera shop down the street. Am no strager to Jobo tanks, D76, and Dektol. Was the "hipster" guy shootig a giant Yashica GSN (every so often an old guy stopping me saying, "I had one of those!") at events when everyone else was clicking their digital point-n-shoots (now also obsolete) or cell phones. Do note, I have nearly 3,000 posts on this forum.
However, it's obviously obsolete. I'll save that rant possibly for another day. However, there is a reason why Kodak is in the sorry shape it's in, and why very few new film cameras are still made. Why -- despite living in a suburb of a major city with a population larger than many US states, I now have to mail out rolls of color prints when I could walk 1/4-1/2 mile in any direction and have film processed and color prints made not s' long ago. Why it's disappeared from the shelves and I have to order film online. Why very few pro's still use it. Why not really that young people -- not kids, may have never even seen an actual film camera in their lives.
There is such a thing as "wisdom of the crowd".
I stll keep a few cameras around -- let's see I have a Nikon AF L35, Pentax PC35 AF, an Olympus XA, and a Fujica Compact Deluxe and have some rolls in the fridge. (Do note -- these are small cameras except for the Fuji. If there's one advantage small format still has it's "full frame in your pocket".) I get it. But let's get real.
gnuyork
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YES! FF all the way baby!
Oh wait... oops. This one is from my APS sensor point and shoot camera. Handheld.
Oh wait... oops. This one is from my APS sensor point and shoot camera. Handheld.
Bill Clark
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I’m a minimalist regarding equipment I use when making photographs.
For me, it gets too complicated having a bunch at hand to use just in case.
Give me a camera, one maybe two lenses and a reflector, that’s it.
For me, it gets too complicated having a bunch at hand to use just in case.
Give me a camera, one maybe two lenses and a reflector, that’s it.
Dogman
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Wait! Hold on a minute.
I fully accept that I'm wrong about everything. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you that. And she's never wrong about anything. She'll tell you that too.
But...who is this DXOwhatever? And why should I care how they rate something? Does this infinite entity have access to my innermost desires, needs and personal prejudices so it can thus determine with absolute perfection what I absolutely must have? Neat trick, that.
'Scuse me but I'll just pass on believing camera ratings scores as meaning much of anything anymore.
Unless my wife takes up rating cameras, that is.
I fully accept that I'm wrong about everything. Just ask my wife, she'll tell you that. And she's never wrong about anything. She'll tell you that too.
But...who is this DXOwhatever? And why should I care how they rate something? Does this infinite entity have access to my innermost desires, needs and personal prejudices so it can thus determine with absolute perfection what I absolutely must have? Neat trick, that.
'Scuse me but I'll just pass on believing camera ratings scores as meaning much of anything anymore.
Unless my wife takes up rating cameras, that is.
steveyork
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Still don't like the look of digital B&W as much as film.
raid
Dad Photographer
Yes.
In the end, you do what you like doing anyways. We have here a variety of opinions.
NickTrop
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DXOmark is a resource and is a much hated software manufacturer (hated because their evaluations and scores don't always "align" with gear you may own...) that makes DXO Optics Pro, a leading RAW image converter. They scientifically test camera sensors and lenses of all manufacturers in a lab and publish their results. If you want to see how your gear measures up? -- at least technically? It's worth taking a look at. If you don't? Don't bother.
I always give it a peek. Sure. Why not? It's better than some subjective opinion on YouTube or blogs. I've shied away from a few purchases based on their evaluations.
Ccoppola82
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I have this weird way of choosing my gear.
1. Does it take photos that I like? Yes or no
2. Do I enjoy using the camera or lens? Yes or no
If the answer is yes to both, I tend to carry and use it. End result, I take more photos.
That’s it. Pretty simple. Then again I’m not a pro, nor do I enlarge to monstrous sizes.
1. Does it take photos that I like? Yes or no
2. Do I enjoy using the camera or lens? Yes or no
If the answer is yes to both, I tend to carry and use it. End result, I take more photos.
That’s it. Pretty simple. Then again I’m not a pro, nor do I enlarge to monstrous sizes.
steveyork
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I like this truth.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have used film photography and B&W film developing and scanning (and some printing) in the past. I have been mainly using digital cameras in the past few years. What makes me go to digital is not perceived quality in the end result. It is time savings. I am very busy at work doing extra time research, and this leaves me little time for film. I just take my M8 and M9 whenever I happen to have little time for taking photos. Then I don't want to worry about where to have the film developed and scanned.
This is basically how I see it in my case. I still value film photography, and this is why I bought the SWC after I bought the M9. I wanted to make sure that I stayed anchored to film too.
This is basically how I see it in my case. I still value film photography, and this is why I bought the SWC after I bought the M9. I wanted to make sure that I stayed anchored to film too.
PKR
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Who owns DXO Mark ?
"DxO Labs is no longer the same company as DxO Mark — DxO Mark became an independent company in the fall of 2017. "
https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/dxo-labs-bankruptcy-report-suggest/
I remember them having trouble testing non Bayer configured sensors (X-Trans) ?
Edit / found this:
Why DxOMark Doesn’t Test Fujifilm Cameras
https://petapixel.com/2016/01/26/why-dxomark-doesnt-test-fujifilm-cameras/
Huss
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Fantastic observation Keith!
emraphoto
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emraphoto
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So if i understand this right... Horses for courses yeah?
emraphoto
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