show off your black paint barnack

[David Hughes]

Thank you David, for the trouble you've had. Maybe one day we'll know.

Did you ever expose a film with that camera?

Erik.

Hi,

This is the easiest to get on to a forum but a low quality scan:-

I've a lot more but my wife is in all of them and so has used her veto; I think the lens and film combination is perfect for portraits as long as you remember it's 50mm.

Regards, David

 

[Erik van Straten]

I don't fully understand the copyright implications of posting scans of books on teh internet but this is from the Laney book and if you haven't got a copy...get one!

OK?

About FINAL etc


final409 by dralowid, on Flickr


final408 by dralowid, on Flickr

Stupid me: I looked it up in all my Leica books, but completely forgot the Laney ones. I stand corrected.

Thank you, Michael.

Erik.

 

[Erik van Straten]

Hi,

This is the easiest to get on to a forum but a low quality scan:-

I've a lot more but my wife is in all of them and so has used her veto; I think the lens and film combination is perfect for portraits as long as you remember it's 50mm.

Regards, David

Thank you David, a very nice shot. Great lens, this Elmar. It records even the very fine structure of the covering of the chair.

Erik.

 

[johannielscom]

and here it is...from a catalogue/price list dated March '29

final410 by dralowid, on Flickr

Remarkable!

I have an early Leica II from 1932 and it is not fitted with a FILCA-capable bottom plate, while the earlier KASAM cassettes already weren't listed anymore in 1929!

 

[Dralowid]

And...

Were all older Leicas without baseplate instructions supplied with this little card?

final414 by dralowid, on Flickr

 

[David Hughes]

Talking of cassettes, this one baffles me:-

And now I wonder what the first Leitz cassettes for the early Leicas look like; I've one of the neither Zeiss nor Leitz ones by Agfa but...

Regards, David

 

[Erik van Straten]

The picture from Michael is not so old because the cassettes are of the FILCA B type.

The Leica I used originally the FILCA A type. I have a Leica I that accepts only FILCA A and B cassettes, but not the modern cassettes from the film companies. The FILCA A was not entirely reliable.

KASAM's are late bakelite casettes (1933) velvet lined (Samt = velvet in German).

The cassette that David shows was a cassette made by a film producer to be filled with commercially produced pre cut film I guess. It is well known that the Perutz Fliegerfilm was very popular with Leica users in those years. The early Leica pictures from Cartier-Bresson were also on Perutz Fliegerfilm.

Erik.

 

[Dralowid]

Ah yes, the text on the back of my card is in a sans serif that looks far more '30s than '20s. Although trained as a typographer I have lost my 'eye' and can't tell you what it is...

Most of my old Leica literature is set in a serif.

 

[Erik van Straten]

I am intrigued by the model C cassette. I've never seen one. Why is the opening curved?


Erik.

 

[johannielscom]

Erik, I beg to differ.

I currently have two KASAM cassettes and they are made from metal and the insides are indeed velvet-lined. Mine need to have the velvet re-glued or possibly replaced since it has creases that will likely not iron out anymore after 80+ years...

 

[Mr_Flibble]

 

[Erik van Straten]

Lovely set of II's, Rick.

Johan, I've never seen metal KASAMs, only black bakelite ones. Too much trouble to show them?

Erik.

 

[Dralowid]

Another one I regret selling...but you can't keep them all!

IMG_1253 by dralowid, on Flickr

 

[David Hughes]

Hi,

It seems I've an A and B cassette and may have one of the D's but can't think where it is. I vaguely remember looking and wondering at it but no more. It'll turn up someday...

As for the Perutz, the early 1920's adverts for the Leica often had three of them as part of the package. Oddly enough they never seemed to offer a lens hood in the packages. Nor will one fit in the ETRIN case I showed.

Regards, David

 

[David Hughes]

Hi,

Two handsome beasts there, I expect the demand to rise as fast as the price now.

Regards, David

 

[Erik van Straten]

Oddly enough they never seemed to offer a lens hood in the packages. Nor will one fit in the ETRIN case I showed.

That always amazed me too. In the ads the lens hoods do not show up either. Maybe the Leitz policy was to keep the general image alive that the Leica was a very small camera. A lens hood adds to the bulk. The hoods also meant extra costs, just as the filters. I remember the trick of the camera shops in Amsterdam that when a camera was sold the seller always came up with an UV filter as a very important extra item, on extra costs, of course. (UV filters are totally useless.)

Erik.

 

[Erik van Straten]

you can't keep them all

Why not?

Erik.

 

[Dralowid]

Why not?

Erik.

Because they need to be converted into cash to fund other interests like sailing, Marklin and a 1930s car.

Such is the life of a pensioner...

Michael

(mind you, I've kept what I consider to be the best, I still have 6 black cameras five of which are conversions that you have seen already)

 

[David Hughes]

Because they need to be converted into cash to fund other interests like sailing, Marklin and a 1930s car.

Such is the life of a pensioner...

Michael

(mind you, I've kept what I consider to be the best, I still have 6 black cameras five of which are conversions that you have seen already)

Hi,

You left out "but we don't complain" even though we get blamed for everything these days...

Regards, David

 

[Dralowid]

Hi,

You left out "but we don't complain" even though we get blamed for everything these days...

Regards, David

But even when I wasn't a pensioner it was always all my fault so no change there. Growing old disgracefully should be raised to the status of an art