Bill58
Native Texan
I seriously predict you'll be sorry you did this.
The sale of RFF and the gear are unrelated. I have been talking with a friend who has both M8 and NIKON DSLR and he has been telling me some interesting things that are making me want to do this. Not to mention I get to identify the TRUE DIE HARD RF USERS now. All the KEEP it and all the SELL comments show your true colors 
It's all an evil master plan.
It's all an evil master plan.
harmsr
M5 Nut
Jorge,
I agree on the DMR, but please think again.
As you know, I have the D200 with the 35/2, 50/1.4, and 85/1.4 Zeiss glass. I also went the Brightscreen route so that manual focus was easier. The D200 is a very ergonomic and easy to use DSLR. The Zeiss glass is what kept me in Nikon for my DSLR needs.
HOWEVER, the files just don't compare to what I'm getting from the M8. The noise is better in the M8, especially if you overexpose by about 1/3 or in other words believe the meter.
Size, ease of focusing, weight, all go to the M8 for use with the wides and standards.
My $.02 is to keep the M8 with the 28 Cron ASPH and the 50 Lux ASPH, if you really want to sell this stuff. Then get the D200 and Zeiss glass for your SLR stuff.
Best,
Ray
I agree on the DMR, but please think again.
As you know, I have the D200 with the 35/2, 50/1.4, and 85/1.4 Zeiss glass. I also went the Brightscreen route so that manual focus was easier. The D200 is a very ergonomic and easy to use DSLR. The Zeiss glass is what kept me in Nikon for my DSLR needs.
HOWEVER, the files just don't compare to what I'm getting from the M8. The noise is better in the M8, especially if you overexpose by about 1/3 or in other words believe the meter.
Size, ease of focusing, weight, all go to the M8 for use with the wides and standards.
My $.02 is to keep the M8 with the 28 Cron ASPH and the 50 Lux ASPH, if you really want to sell this stuff. Then get the D200 and Zeiss glass for your SLR stuff.
Best,
Ray
FrankS
Registered User
I'm in the "at least keep the MP, 35 and 50mm lenses" camp. That way you'll have some gear that will still be functioning in 20 years. Whatever dSLR you buy, won't be.
JohnM
Well-known
This is almost painful to watch - it has got to be expensive to dive headlong into and out of camera systems the way you do.
Good luck with the sale, Jorge - hope you find something that really suits you next go 'round.
Good luck with the sale, Jorge - hope you find something that really suits you next go 'round.
Nando
Well-known
Jorge,
Your friend is the Devil.

Your friend is the Devil.
FrankS
Registered User
My advice: don't get interested in large sail or motor boats, Jorge!
Hexacron
Member
:bang: This is what you are doing here with your sale idea! I have been through this a time or two. If you want to experiment with a DSLR that is fine. But selling all your M stuff to experiment with the DSLR shows that you are not thinking clearly. I am speaking from experience and squandered mucho $ , going from M to Blad and back to M and to digital and back to M. It wont be to long and you will want another M camera.
But it is your money and your life, and only you can make your own decision. Think about this a little more before you make your ultimate decision. Good Luck!
But it is your money and your life, and only you can make your own decision. Think about this a little more before you make your ultimate decision. Good Luck!
Hephaestus
Established
Jorge,
As someone who WAS exclusively DSLR for three years, I am now shifting back towards film. Why? Because every time I leaf through folders of old photos, I'm mindful that some of the shots with no technical value at all, photos of former acquaintances I had or mundane shots of houses I used to live in, are ones I end up valuing the most. Those are precisely the sort that I'm prone to deleting on digital, or at least not bothering to print. Now, maybe you have a whopping hard-drive full of images, but you can't tell me that's a better back-up than film. Hard drives crash, for one. I just feel better committing my sentimental pictures to celluloid rather than digital.
So, while I would agree that digital is a superior medium making great pictures, film can't be beat for simple snapshots. Now do you need your whole Leica kit for that? Perhaps not, but I think it would be a mistake to give up on film entirely.
That said, I'm hoping you'll split up your sale and give me an amazing price on your 0.72 MP (as I just missed the boat on Endustry's...)
-Ryan
As someone who WAS exclusively DSLR for three years, I am now shifting back towards film. Why? Because every time I leaf through folders of old photos, I'm mindful that some of the shots with no technical value at all, photos of former acquaintances I had or mundane shots of houses I used to live in, are ones I end up valuing the most. Those are precisely the sort that I'm prone to deleting on digital, or at least not bothering to print. Now, maybe you have a whopping hard-drive full of images, but you can't tell me that's a better back-up than film. Hard drives crash, for one. I just feel better committing my sentimental pictures to celluloid rather than digital.
So, while I would agree that digital is a superior medium making great pictures, film can't be beat for simple snapshots. Now do you need your whole Leica kit for that? Perhaps not, but I think it would be a mistake to give up on film entirely.
That said, I'm hoping you'll split up your sale and give me an amazing price on your 0.72 MP (as I just missed the boat on Endustry's...)
-Ryan
sf
Veteran
Jorge Torralba said:The sale of RFF and the gear are unrelated.
It's all an evil master plan.
So, it's just a very sad coincidence.
Good luck with SLRs. I owned the Nikon, as i said, and it was a wonderful machine.
MadMan2k
Well-known
You could go with a 1DS mk2 and some Leica R and the good Contax glass, which is no cheaper than M stuff some of the time, and some Canon tele's.
1DS2 - $8k
C/Z 21mm Distagon - $3k-ish
Leica 35-70 2.8 - $4-5k probably
Canon 200 1.8 - $3k-ish
Canon 600mm 4.0 - $7k
etc..
1DS2 - $8k
C/Z 21mm Distagon - $3k-ish
Leica 35-70 2.8 - $4-5k probably
Canon 200 1.8 - $3k-ish
Canon 600mm 4.0 - $7k
etc..
HAnkg
Well-known
The M8 and 2 lenses is a complete RF kit. You could get a DSLR and a macro, zoom, PC and long lens and still have a big chunk of change left over. I'm not getting the sell everything, unless your friend handed you some inside line on a new Nikon product that was so revolutionary that everybody would be dumping their gear to get it.
anaanda
Well-known
Jorge Torralba said:I have lost my mind and am now seriously thinking of going DSLR 100%. I have a lot invested in the Leica gear and would rather put the money to better use. Regardless If I sell, it will be the complete kit. I do not want to break it up. Breaking it up will leave me with regretful feelings while I still see bits laying around. If I sell it as an entire kit it is all gone at once. So here you go.
All is like new with original box.
Leica MP .72 Chrome
Leica M8 Chrome
Leica 21mm 2.8 Asph Chrome + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 24mm 2.8 Asph Chrome + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 28mm 2.0 Asph Black + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 35mm 1.4 Asph Chrome + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 50mm 1.4 Asph Chrome + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 75mm 2.0 Asph Black + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 90mm 2.0 Asph Chrome + UV/IR FIlter
Leica 21mm Viewfinder Black
Leica 24mm Viewfinder Black
Leica 21-24-28 Viewfinder Chrome
Luigi Case for MP with built in grip
Luigi Case fro M8 with built in grip
Asking 26k
Jorge
I think its an excellent move, I mean do you really need all those lenses, people make great shots with the Holga....too much choice disturbs the creative flow....the mind is certainly a monkey (All minds that is)...so I would keep the MP and the 50 Summilux and dump the rest and buy a camera for a kid who can't afford one... edit nikola said you already did so i guess you can buy some more gear with the money
Good luck with the sale, I think I agree with the others to break it up..
Regards,
Scott
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Dougg
Seasoned Member
When I saw the first post, Jorge, I just shook my head... and I'll say no more except to agree that selling it as one bundle seems pretty unlikely (dsang you rascal, are you buying it all??), and may be an attempt to fail! 
Leica Geek
Well-known
The M8 is digital. What's wrong with that camera? I used dslr's for years now and I sold my Nikon D100 and some good lenses to buy an M6 and some lenses. I have to save for an M8, but my DLUX 3 works great for now. The quality of digital has become very impressive, but the quality of the equipment doesn't impress me. Canon in my opinion makes the best Dslrs, but they are much too big.
Don't do it man.
Don't do it man.
nikola
Well-known
anaanda he already did that! 
Jorge I don't now what to say...
Keep M8 with 35... and enjoy the life... travel.... see the world I don't know... whatever makes your hart ticking!
If you can't find satisfaction in all this Leica stuff... how could you find it in "inferior".. hehe... gear, like Nikon and Zeiss?!
sailboats are nice!
Jorge I don't now what to say...
Keep M8 with 35... and enjoy the life... travel.... see the world I don't know... whatever makes your hart ticking!
If you can't find satisfaction in all this Leica stuff... how could you find it in "inferior".. hehe... gear, like Nikon and Zeiss?!
sailboats are nice!
Frank K
Member
I just went through some old "snapshots" that were taken many years ago. To me that is a huge advantage for using film. Digital stuff gets lost in cyberspace or hard drive crashes. I shoot digital also but the photos I want for my children & grandchildren to enjoy in years to come are done on film. At least keep the MP & 50mm for those special family occasions.
---Just my 2 cents
---Just my 2 cents
Keith
The best camera is one that still works!
I can't believe that that cheapskate 'Gandy' snapped up your forum but obviously wouldn't take the camera gear! 
Oh Two
Established
I'm Interested In Everything But....
I'm Interested In Everything But....
The Luigi case.
I don't have a Zorro moustache or carry a man purse either.
I'm Interested In Everything But....
The Luigi case.
I don't have a Zorro moustache or carry a man purse either.
Gabriel M.A.
My Red Dot Glows For You
I was just thinking that. I call dibbs on the black 28 Summicron.ray_g said:That kit would make one hell of an RFF contest prize...![]()
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