Archlich
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“Abnormal” in Japanese feels more like “extraordinary”. So IMO it’s probably in the class of extra-low dispersion, aka Nikon’s ED element.
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“Abnormal” in Japanese feels more like “extraordinary”. So IMO it’s probably in the class of extra-low dispersion, aka Nikon’s ED element.
pushto1600
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I'm wondering the size of the thing. Would it be economical to put on a Film M? Are we talking Zeiss Planar 50mm ZM? 50mm 'Cron V5? Or god forbid, Zeiss 35mm 1.4 ZM length. I just don't want the thing blocking my viewfinder up...
BWF
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At $1200, where do I sign?
james.liam
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Well, it's a little bigger than the Leica 50 APO:
Leica 50 APO: 53mm L x 47.0 mm diameter, E39, 300 gm; 8 elements/5 groups
VM 50 APO: 53mm L x 55.6 mm diameter, E49, 288 gm; 10 elements/5 groups (80 gm lighter than the E version)
A little wider but lighter. Manageable. Probably intrudes a tad more into the VF than the ZM 2/50 but at 1/7th the cost of the Leica, one can live with the heftier waistline.
I'm more curious by the use of different glass types than the E mount version. Probably accounts for much of the weight difference.
pushto1600
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Yes. Fat I can live with. Length however... I am praying to heaven that it doesn't have the profile of a Zeiss 35 distagon.
nickthetasmaniac
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Archlich
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My assumption is the electronics, electromagnetic aperture diagram (essential for live view) and the "Selective Aperture Control" mechanism of the Voigtlander FE lenses which can turn the aperture clickless for video use that make up the majority of the weigh difference.
All recent CV FE lenses constantly weigh 80-90 grams more than the equivalent M lenses for this reason; For some lenses (40/1.2 and 50/1.2) there has also been a "SE" ("Stills Edition") version for Sony cameras which omitted the said mechanism. These weigh a lot less than the regular FE ones and are more in line with the M versions.
Archiver
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Wait, that vintage line 50/1.5 is the same lens design as the scalloped ring version? 😛 How did I not see it like this? 🙂
james.liam
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35 Distagom is 65mm L by 63mm diameter vs 53mm x 55.6 for the VM 50 APO
pushto1600
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So basically as tall as but a little fatter than a 50 'Lux
james.liam
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Thats about right. But it’s 55 grams lighter. The 50 Summilux would always tip the body over forward when the camera was set down on the base plate.
nickthetasmaniac
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Do you mean you want the original 6-element design in a different body, rather than the new v2 offering? Sorry I don’t quite follow your response..?
Archiver
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What I mean is, does the new Vintage Line V2 Nokton have the same innards as the earlier scalloped ring Nokton? Or are they different lens designs?
As for how big the APO Lanthar is and whether it blocks the viewfinder, I shoot with the Voigtlander Nokton 35/1.2 v1, and viewfinder blockage doesn't bother me at all. One day, I'll get a Zeiss Distagon and call it a day for 35s. Okay, maybe I'll get a Color Skopar 35/2.5 just to round it out.
Archlich
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The recent Vintage Line Nokton 50/1.5 has an all new design incorporating a retrofocal element similar to the Leica 50/1.4 ASPH.
The LTM and M mount "scallop" Nokton have a rather classical 6-element Ultron design with an aspherical element.
Out to Lunch
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Voigtlander's official dealer in Saigon is advertising the APO-Lanthar 2/50:
- $ 1,028 in E-mount
- $ 1,245 in M-mount
Cheers, OtL
- $ 1,028 in E-mount
- $ 1,245 in M-mount
Cheers, OtL
cboy
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Hopefully someone will review it against the leica apo. This is more promising that ttartisan/7artisan alternatives
james.liam
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Given the difference between the E and M versions in terms of optical glass used, we shall have to wait.
nzeeman
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a bit strange to compare versions that come at about 1/3rd of voigtlander price and one or two stop faster... of course charts will be better on voigtlander - but if you need faster lens - you dont care for charts. i shoot mostly night and in country where is overcast and dark most of year and i dont want to go higher than 3200iso... i love the fact that this apo exist and would get it for sure if im more south - but here f2 is often useless. (and im pretty sceptical about apo designation nowadays-i saw leica apo tests that all show fringing - also some testers obviously avoid to even test for CA because they know they will show up so they just tell stories about how perfect lens is without making any challenging shots. so lets see how it is in real life)
Archlich
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This lens is supposed to aim for top performance and go head-to-head with the Leica 50 APO-Summicron. I don't think the artisans offer anything comparable to be considered as "alternatives".
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