raid
Dad Photographer
The Alps is a big place....yes a 90 definitely. France, Switzerland...Italy?
France, Switzerland, and Italy.
raid
Dad Photographer
Raid,
When I used to photograph the Colorado mountains, I used 28mm, 50mm and a 135mm in my film days. Later on digital, In used a Sony R1 with a zoom lens with the equivalent 24-120mm. I found that more than adequate, and I often shoot at the wider end. So I'd suggest that you choose your prime lenses within that range.
I often shoot at around 12,000- 14,000 ft. above sea level. With digital, I often didn't use a polarizing filter, but at those elevations, the sky will naturally be rendered darker than shooting from sea level. So if I used a polarizing filter at all, I likely would not turn it to its maximum power. I had made the mistake when I used film in my younger days---the strong action of the polarizing filter that I used almost turned the sky black.
Panoramic shots are very suitable for that type of landscape. However, if you used a polarizing filter, you'd better re-adjust the strength of your polarizing filter after a shot or two. Otherwise you'd end up with very uneven skies on the horizontal plane. I'd say that you should use a tripod when you need to make those adjustments along the way.
Granted, most of the mountains in Switzerland are not as high. I remember the one that I visited (Mt. Titlis) was just a bit over 11,000 ft. But you still should have a strong UV filter for that.
Tin
Mt. Titlis may be reached from Lucerne in a half-day trip. It seems that 35mm-90mm is recommended. I never use filters with RF cameras.
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Well Mont Blanc is 15,780' and the Alps have a much greater vertical relief from the valley than Colorado does.
Raid, if you visit the Italian side of Mont Blanc out of Courmayeur...a 90 will come in handy.
Raid, if you visit the Italian side of Mont Blanc out of Courmayeur...a 90 will come in handy.
f16sunshine
Moderator
A uv/skylight filter at a minimum is advisable.
It’s a hassle to use a polarizer with rangefinders but they can be useful.
Zeiss T* coated lenses seem to have a polarizer effect at times. Take your modern zeiss glass if you can
For Rangefinder, I would take a 35 and 90 if that was a choice.
Next year I’ll be back in Switzerland for a family visit.
Sony A7 with 55mm and the Fuji GF670 with fuji 160s will make the trip.
It’s a hassle to use a polarizer with rangefinders but they can be useful.
Zeiss T* coated lenses seem to have a polarizer effect at times. Take your modern zeiss glass if you can
For Rangefinder, I would take a 35 and 90 if that was a choice.
Next year I’ll be back in Switzerland for a family visit.
Sony A7 with 55mm and the Fuji GF670 with fuji 160s will make the trip.
raid
Dad Photographer
I could take the Biogon 35/2 and the Tele Elmarit 90/2.8.
raid
Dad Photographer
Well Mont Blanc is 15,780' and the Alps have a much greater vertical relief from the valley than Colorado does.
Raid, if you visit the Italian side of Mont Blanc out of Courmayeur...a 90 will come in handy.
I will take with me a short tele. I usually do not bother with a tele when I travel.
raid
Dad Photographer
Sorry, I was just looking at my picture taken in Banff at the top. It was one of the examples where you need it wide. Today I just can't find it. Then I was in mountains last time I used 17-35 and 70-200 lenses on FF camera. I used all range.
This is what I was able to find today from the top shots.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/Q01w5LMEDxy6qkIJ2
It is 36 mm on FF.
This on is another top view taken with 17mm on FF
https://photos.app.goo.gl/A9VpcMMjXLposmNu1
Don't forget what you could always swipe panorama with mobile phone. Or use 50mm or even 35 in portrait orientation to take three overlapping shots and stitch them later on.
Both images look great. Thanks.
Tin
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A uv/skylight filter at a minimum is advisable.
It’s a hassle to use a polarizer with rangefinders but they can be useful.
Zeiss T* coated lenses seem to have a polarizer effect at times. Take your modern zeiss glass if you can![]()
Yes, the Zeiss Vario-Sonnar zoom lens on the Sony R1 did have a polarizing effect. I credit that to its good contrast, but I may be wrong. Hence, I've never used a polarizing filter with that lens.
Tin
Archlich
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Take a lens, any lens, and that's it (35mm is about right for me, but YMMV). You can't take the mountain with you anyway, it's too big for a photograph. Whatever you take is just a tiny bit of slice....
raid
Dad Photographer
When we toured the American Southwest a few years back, I took along a 21mm, 35mm, 50mm and 90mm. I probably used the 50mm the most, followed by the 35mm, then the 90mm. I used the 21mm the least, but I did use it to take some very dramatic photos.
Jim B.
For mountains, 35mm and 50mm may turn out the most useful, Jim.
raid
Dad Photographer
I have never done stitched images, Peter. Your image came out looking very nice.Whichever lens you use Raid make sure you use a UV filter and perhaps a polarizing filter (e.g. if there is snow about). One thing I have found with mountains is lots of UV light due to the reduced filtering effect at altitude. You need to cut UV haze to get clear shots. It is said that digital sensors do not have the same susceptibility to UV haze as film. I am not sure but would not take the chance and I am sure that a polarizing filter will help with reflected light.
In terms of the question of which lens I think that when taking shots of "big" scenes their magnificence depends on their expansiveness. It is always disappointing I find to go somewhere where you are overwhelmed by the vast vistas only to make images that end up looking "small" and truncated. So a wide angle - perhaps 28mm would be my choice (with perhaps a small longer focus lens thrown in as back up in the event that a detailed shot of something is desired). I don't know that I would go ultra wide as distances tend to be large in mountains and everything recedes too much with ultra wide angle lenses, potentially leaving large areas of unfilled foreground and tiny mountains in the background.
One thing to consider is the possibility of taking some panoramas and stitching them afterwards. I sometimes use the Microsoft digital ICE software which is stitching software available free on the internet when making such images. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/res...tography-applications/image-composite-editor/
Three or even four shots side by side will turn into a lovely panorama if the images are executed properly. The following, though not of mountains, was made in the Adelaide Hills using just such technique. Here I wanted to capture the rolling hills and tightly controlled order of the lines of vines. ICE works very well in this situation as there are few straight lines to become distorted by the software when manipulating the image to stitch together. This also somewhat solves the problem of how wide to go as wider shots can be created in post. In my case I also grouped that shot with a few less wide angle shots to get closer details as well. Hence my suggestion that you may wish to consider a longer lens too.
Vines and sky by Life in Shadows, on Flickr
Using M8 and M9 with 35mm and 50mm may do a good job.
wjlapier
Well-known
My son has summited Mount Rainier and Mount St Helens recently. He's climbed many mountains in the Olympic peninsula over the last year. Several years back he summited 6 peaks in 5 days in Glacier National Park. Only lens he had was the one in his iPhone. I have most of his photos from Montana and his Rainier and St Helen ascent. I'll try to post a few.
Here he is on the summit of s smaller mountain in the Washington State Cascade Range:

Here he is on the summit of s smaller mountain in the Washington State Cascade Range:

wjlapier
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Corran
Well-known
The biggest one you can carry.
Richard G
Veteran
Port Hills above Christchurch NZ
90mm Elmarit M

Lyttleton harbour by Richard, on Flickr
ZM 25mm Biogon

Port Hills by Richard, on Flickr
Ovens Valley from Mt Feathertop, Victoria, Australia around 1981. 50 Summilux v2 with UVa filter.

Ovens Valley form Feathertop.jpg by Richard, on Flickr
90mm Elmarit M

Lyttleton harbour by Richard, on Flickr
ZM 25mm Biogon

Port Hills by Richard, on Flickr
Ovens Valley from Mt Feathertop, Victoria, Australia around 1981. 50 Summilux v2 with UVa filter.

Ovens Valley form Feathertop.jpg by Richard, on Flickr
Peter_S
Peter_S
Thank you!Peter ... Beautiful!
Polarizers are indeed something you want to take. I use two - one on the lens; the other is in my hands to read the correct rotation number. Else I need to take the filter on/off for each shot. With polarizers, I would be cautious with anything wider than 35mm, however.
For mountain photography (I need to go light all the time) I find 35mm and 50mm to close to each other. When the reach of 35mm is not enough (one summit, for example), the 50 does not really solve that. And the M9 has enough resolution to crop (just like putting a 35mm on your M8). Plus I do not like to change lenses frequently.
Thats all subjective, off course.
My mountain lens setup this year will likely be 21 - 35 - 75mm.
mcfingon
Western Australia
Raid, for my recent motorbike trip in the Northern Italian Alps I bought a 24/3.8 Elmar-M and used it a lot. So I would say take as wide as you have or maybe try and afford a wider one if you can! It's great if you want to show people and the scenery. I was also carrying a 50/2.8 Elmar-M and 90/4 M-Rokkor, so I wasn't just relying on one lens, but they are all relatively compact.
John Mc
John Mc
mcfingon
Western Australia
Example from Elmar-M 24/3.8 on Sony A7S on top of Stelvio Pass, Northern Italy.
John Mc

John Mc
robert blu
quiet photographer
I do not like to change lenses frequently....so my most used in the Alps are my 50 and 35.
here 50 on M 7
and here is the equivalent of 35 ( it's 24 on aps-c sensor of the Leica x1)
This is th CV 12/f 5.6 on the Bessa R
On the other side if you like details this is the 75 cv always on the Bessa R
At the end it depends a lot on you photographic style. In your case I think 35 + an alternative wider or small tele could be the ideal solution.
Gear can be heavy...do not forget
robert
here 50 on M 7

and here is the equivalent of 35 ( it's 24 on aps-c sensor of the Leica x1)

This is th CV 12/f 5.6 on the Bessa R

On the other side if you like details this is the 75 cv always on the Bessa R

At the end it depends a lot on you photographic style. In your case I think 35 + an alternative wider or small tele could be the ideal solution.
Gear can be heavy...do not forget
robert
Dralowid
Michael
A certain well known but nowadays much maligned manufacturer chose 105mm...
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