Yucky 35mm G lens

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nickchew

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I'm really quite disappointed with the 35mm anything less than f5.6.
Vignetting is quite obvious.

45mm and 90mm are the best lenses I think.

Here is the
"underbelly of the London Eye"
G2 35mm f8
 
I don't see vignetting here...

My Planar works reasonably well... However, upon studying with a loupe some slides I found that it's sharpness doesn't extend all the way to the edges. It's a decent performer, but not as good as the 45mm.

Now... how did you manage to center a photo like this? Or is it a post-production cropping?
 
I think I can see some (note the darker corners) , but I'll have to see the negs before I say "yay" or "nay".

Tried the G's 28mm yet?

Stu :)
 
Yeah

I have the 28 and the 21 too. I find both of them better.
This photo doesn't show the vig too well coz the background's so white.

cropping? yes and no. This was focussed at infinity so the parallax error between viewer and lens was not too noticeable. My problem was actually rotation. the "horizon" was not on the spot. I had to rotate it by 1.5degrees CCW on photoshop.

How about this for vignetting? The eye again.



Nick
 
yikes! the vignetting disappeared again! I wonder if it is the digital file or my computer? it looked different on my computer screen.

Thanks anyway.

Nick
 
Nickchew, methinks you're just stirring the waters to make us believe that your standards are so hight and so we'll repeat constantly that your photos are just small masterpieces and they're just great and add that if this is what you do with a lousy G lens we wonder what you'd be able to achieve with a super-dooper 16mm lens.

Right? ;)

Just kidding! :) :) :)

What film did you use? I've never noticed any vignetting in my slides, but maybe I should look at them more carefully.
 
Nick, welcome to RFF! I do see a small amount of corner fall-off in your two shots, but ask yourself, "Is the fall-off unattractive?" For some pictorial purposes, it's been traditional in the darkroom to deliberately burn-in the corners of the print to be darker. It helps concentrate viewer attention to the important stuff near the middle. So think of it as a desirable attribute!
 
Nick, though I do see some vignetting I don't find it disturbing, annoying or that it detracts from the shot. Maybe you're focussing a bit too much on the fact there is some vignetting and have lost sight of the overall appearance of the shot. It's good to step back from time to time.
 
SolaresLarrave, The film's kodak professional "what-u-ma-call-it" C41 B/W. Coz I was travelling and it was easier to get C41 processing. U are too kind...I think....I'm not sure...I think....Is the 16mm really that good?

I guess RML and Doug are right. Vignetting may be there but it may not necessarily be a pain in the #$@&! Lomo's sell afterall! (It's just that I've always been somewhat of a techy-buff and those nagging obessions do get in the way of enjoyment.)

Thanks for all your comments

nick
 
You're welcome, Nick. I just like the geometric nature of the images. To me, at a given moment, vignetting in landscapish shots isn't so terribly bad as it kinda mimics the human eye: we don't have sharp, corner-to-corner vision, do we?

I've heard only good things about the 16mm, but it's way too wide for my taste.

Have a nice day!
 
I haven't tried a 35mm g lens myself, yet :)

But from what I've heard it is not up to Planar 45 or Biogon 28 edge sharpness and it's color rendition is a bit different.

It seems to be made to match typical 35mm lenses from the 50s to 60s in this regard.

Vigneting may be caused by the wrong lens hood. Don't have my manual with me, but as far as I recall it should be used with the GG-1.
I have very very VERY slight vignetting with my Planar 45 + B+W Filter + GG-2 so I use a GG-1 on my 45mm with filters
 
Huck finn,
It was at the London Eye.
Terribly expensive place. Winter, wind blowing, terribly cold, kids grouchy, didn't enjoy it..... ,but hey, at least I got a photo.

Nick
 
I cant see any vignetting, if you doo it is because of the thick steel poles giving shade or you got a UV or POL filter wich does it.
My 35mm and 45mm lense does not vignet at all.
The 35mm G lense is as good as the 45mm.
 
I agree with you that the 35mm is the least lens of the lot, It is a pity though because 35mm is such a good lenght to make pics with.
 
I haven't tried a 35mm g lens myself, yet :)

But from what I've heard it is not up to Planar 45 or Biogon 28 edge sharpness...

I had one which I used a lot, until I sold my G2 outfit recently (to fund my R-D1 purchase), and I would have to disagree with this. Its corner sharpness at f/2 was merely OK, but in the center and at all other apertures mine gave excellent results.
 
Thanks for all the replies.
I tried this shot to see how badly the lens flare would be on the 35mm.
I was very surprised that there was no visible flare.

Nick
 
One of my very favorite family qualities of the G2 lenses, rather unmatched my my Summicron 50, 35 (ASPH), and Elmar 90 Leica experience.
 
I find I shoot more with the 35mm Planar than with the 45, 28, 21 & 90. It's just my favorite focal length. After almost 1,000 rolls, I'd say the 35mm is at least 98% as good, if not just as good, as the other G lenses and still in the top 100 lenses ever made. I think I could list 20 factors that have more influence on technical quality than that lens vs. the others.

Bob Michaels
 
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