gavinlg
Veteran
AF accuracy is more important to me with these large aperture lenses. No diopter adjustment is another possible deal breaker.
AF accuracy is never an issue with contrast detect - they're 100% accurate.
iskraII
Member
AF accuracy is never an issue with contrast detect - they're 100% accurate.
not with X100. firmware update helped but did not completely resolvve the problem. Even using EVF, you have to use the smallest focusing point to get accurate focus.
gavinlg
Veteran
not with X100. firmware update helped but did not completely resolvve the problem. Even using EVF, you have to use the smallest focusing point to get accurate focus.
I get accurate focus 98% of the time with my x100. Are you utilizing the 'AF parallax correction' menu option with the OVF? If you're not, that's why you're missing focus on shots, and it's your own fault.
Spyro
Well-known
It looks a lot like a Konica....


GaryLH
Veteran
http://www.fujifilm.ca/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x_pro1/features/page_02.html
If u have not checked out the videos from the Fuji guys. During the demo, he shows how the m-adapter setup is going to work by being able to program up to 7 different lenses and their focal length info so that the viewfinder can figure out framing. Sweet. I think it was in part 2 video I saw this.
Amazon is only taking alerts for product availability now.
Gary
If u have not checked out the videos from the Fuji guys. During the demo, he shows how the m-adapter setup is going to work by being able to program up to 7 different lenses and their focal length info so that the viewfinder can figure out framing. Sweet. I think it was in part 2 video I saw this.
Amazon is only taking alerts for product availability now.
Gary
iskraII
Member
I get accurate focus 98% of the time with my x100. Are you utilizing the 'AF parallax correction' menu option with the OVF? If you're not, that's why you're missing focus on shots, and it's your own fault.
I do use AF parallel corection with OVF. The focusing frame is just too large for critical focusing with OVF. I use EVF and smallest focusing spot to reduce the chance of miss placing the spot where I want it to be. Accuracy is much better after the firmwre update but still not anyway close to be perfect. :bang:
jarski
Veteran
am sure exited as everyone about this new cool camera, but would not mind either (as some already suggest here) if Sony upped the game with full frame NEX. IIRC their lens mount is big enough for full frame sensor. hardly going to happen, but camera makers are doing strange things these days because smart phones are consuming their biggest business, point and shoot cameras.
Spyro
Well-known
Quick question (probably stupid):
If you mount on a camera like that a lens that is known to have focus shift, and you focus it through the EVF, the focus shift would be irrelevant, correct? What you see through the EVF is what you get?
If you mount on a camera like that a lens that is known to have focus shift, and you focus it through the EVF, the focus shift would be irrelevant, correct? What you see through the EVF is what you get?
jarski
Veteran
Quick question (probably stupid):
If you mount on a camera like that a lens that is known to have focus shift, and you focus it through the EVF, the focus shift would be irrelevant, correct? What you see through the EVF is what you get?
Focus shift is problem with rangefinders, where you don't see through the lens.
Spyro
Well-known
Focus shift is problem with rangefinders, where you don't see through the lens.
told ya it would be a stupid question
thx
uhoh7
Veteran
excuse my ignorance but how will you focus with the OVF? Is there some sort of patch, or what?
Spyro
Well-known
excuse my ignorance but how will you focus with the OVF? Is there some sort of patch, or what?
no there isnt, and you dont. Only AF, or guesstimate by using the focus distance scale (on camera with a fuji lens, or on the lens with an M lens). Or hyperfocal / zone focusing again with the focus distance scale.
back alley
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i hope they make a grip for it...
Focus shift should be a problem with SLR cameras too, though I don't recall the topic coming up in the literature. Only when focusing at the taking aperture (by whatever means) would there never be shift. Correction: the lens might still shift focus but it wouldn't affect focusing accuracy, thus no problem.
Say you are using a 35mm SLR with 50mm f/1.4 lens. Ordinarily the lens diaphragm stays wide open until exposure. So focusing is done wide open at f/1.4 where DoF is least and the screen is brightest. You have the lens set to f/2.8, say. When you press the shutter release, the mirror goes up, the lens stops down to f/2.8, and the shutter does its thing. There very well might be focus shift between f/1.4 at which you focused, and f/2.8 at which you exposed.
These newfangled digital rigs with live view can focus at the taking aperture, and the electronics brightens the LCD so you can still see what you're doing. Amazing.
And no problems with focus shift.
Say you are using a 35mm SLR with 50mm f/1.4 lens. Ordinarily the lens diaphragm stays wide open until exposure. So focusing is done wide open at f/1.4 where DoF is least and the screen is brightest. You have the lens set to f/2.8, say. When you press the shutter release, the mirror goes up, the lens stops down to f/2.8, and the shutter does its thing. There very well might be focus shift between f/1.4 at which you focused, and f/2.8 at which you exposed.
These newfangled digital rigs with live view can focus at the taking aperture, and the electronics brightens the LCD so you can still see what you're doing. Amazing.
Tim Gray
Well-known
i hope they make a grip for it...
You mean like this?
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmxpro1/images/grip.jpg
noimmunity
scratch my niche
Fuji lenses are great, but...
Fuji lenses are great, but...
Dear RFesqueFers,
Fuji lenses are great, but...
...it can't be too long before CV makes X-mount lenses.
And maybe Zeiss could be coaxed into the fray, too!
And what if this could loosen some of the obstacles to a CV/Zeiss dZI project?
Signed,
Always-hoping-for-synergistic-collaboration-among-CV-Fuji-and-Zeiss
Fuji lenses are great, but...
Dear RFesqueFers,
Fuji lenses are great, but...
...it can't be too long before CV makes X-mount lenses.
And maybe Zeiss could be coaxed into the fray, too!
And what if this could loosen some of the obstacles to a CV/Zeiss dZI project?
Signed,
Always-hoping-for-synergistic-collaboration-among-CV-Fuji-and-Zeiss
IdealCamera
Established
Fuji posted MTF charts. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujinon_lens_xf35mmf14_r/specifications/
If these are true and wide open the 35/1.4 beats the 35 lux asph ii. Seriously?
If these are true and wide open the 35/1.4 beats the 35 lux asph ii. Seriously?
user237428934
User deletion pending
There is a rumor that Fuji will announce the developing of a new camera full-frame, mirrorless and interchangeable system:
A new “Fuji legendary fullframe rumor” is circulating right before the press release
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That would be stupid because all there fine new lenses wouldn't work on that camera. (Assuming they are designed for APS-C)
BMacW
Established
Just a quick question...
How do you project the frame lines with parallax correction in the OVF when using a manual lens?
If the answer is 'No, you can't, you will need to use an EVF' AND that the hybrid OVF offers no advantage of a RF (precise manual focusing). What's the damn point of these Hybrid VF???
I'm sorry, but after using the EVF with the 5N with many M mount lenses, I can hardly see how this system could be any better with the hybrid VF.
If you are looking for a AF compact system with the excellent Fuji lenses and sensor, then I can see all the hype/excitement here.
Otherwise most of you will just have the VF door shut with your M lenses most of the tiem (nex 7)...... right?
How do you project the frame lines with parallax correction in the OVF when using a manual lens?
If the answer is 'No, you can't, you will need to use an EVF' AND that the hybrid OVF offers no advantage of a RF (precise manual focusing). What's the damn point of these Hybrid VF???
I'm sorry, but after using the EVF with the 5N with many M mount lenses, I can hardly see how this system could be any better with the hybrid VF.
If you are looking for a AF compact system with the excellent Fuji lenses and sensor, then I can see all the hype/excitement here.
Otherwise most of you will just have the VF door shut with your M lenses most of the tiem (nex 7)...... right?
noimmunity
scratch my niche
There is a rumor that Fuji will announce the developing of a new camera full-frame, mirrorless and interchangeable system:
A new “Fuji legendary fullframe rumor” is circulating right before the press release
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Smells like a covert op launched by a desperate competitor unable to come up with a rival product in the immediate marketing cycle.
Barring an exorbitant MSRP, what else other than a rumor like this could dampen people's enthusiasm and convince them to hold off?
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