Leica to announce a new M-mount M6 film camera in Oct 2022

On another forum, someone noticed that Leica USA had posted a photo of the old CM compact film camera on social media:
https://www.instagram.com/leicacamerausa/
Perhaps a hint of a new digital compact to fill the void left by the discontinuation of the APS-C cameras? Pretty sure the odds of a modern, high-grade film compact are nil, but wouldn't that be something.

I don't know whether sales trends for Leica M cameras mirror those of the luxury automobile market, but it seems that the latter has done very nicely, with trends favoring higher-end product:
https://robbreport.com/motors/cars/luxury-car-sales-increasing-america-1234746511/
Just read a similar article in today's Wall Street Journal which among other things, cited narrowed price gap between "normal" cars and high-end, and better availabiity of higher-end cars encouraging buyers to move upmarket.

Leica USA is freaking clueless. The CM had a circuit board flaw that couldn’t be repaired and Leica very shortly stopped supporting the camera because the vendor for the part went under. Not very confidence inspiring.
 
On another forum, someone noticed that Leica USA had posted a photo of the old CM compact film camera on social media:
https://www.instagram.com/leicacamerausa/
Perhaps a hint of a new digital compact to fill the void left by the discontinuation of the APS-C cameras? Pretty sure the odds of a modern, high-grade film compact are nil, but wouldn't that be something..

It would be a very smart move since high end 90s-2000 p&s cameras have skyrocketed just as much as the M6. However, could they do it for less than $2000? Less than $3000?
 
Surprised they didn't include rear swing-back door film loading. The M11 did away with the removable base plate. It would be nice for a film M to catch up to everyone else, even if they're 50-odd years behind. Who do they have left to please? All the Leica purists are either dead or a decade from it at most.

What they did or didn't include is irrelevant to me, since I'm perfectly happy with my 1978 M4-2 and have way more cameras (both film and digital) than I'll ever wear out in my remaining lifetime. Never say never, but I doubt I'm going to buy any more 35mm film cameras — have at least a dozen of them now, all shapes and sizes, and don't need any more.

I don't know what you have against the quick-load capability of the M4 and later M cameras ... It's a better load system than most of the swing-open back load systems and enables a more rigid body structure. Just pull the leader out to length, slam the cassette in, put the baseplate on, and wind. Done; works every time. The fact that it is different from what you might be used to does not make it bad or in need of revision...

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According to Leica Rumors, the new film camera to be announced this month will be M mount and slated to replace the current MP. That's a game changer, if true. If it's not a "budget" camera as I previously thought (as originally reported by Leica Rumors), it'll be at least comparably priced to the current M-A/MP.

Regardless, holding firm to their past and current production practices, Leica will still hold production down in order to prevent any chance of a backlog, calling it "perfection" while in fact making it cheaper.
 
On another forum, someone noticed that Leica USA had posted a photo of the old CM compact film camera on social media:
https://www.instagram.com/leicacamerausa/
Perhaps a hint of a new digital compact to fill the void left by the discontinuation of the APS-C cameras? Pretty sure the odds of a modern, high-grade film compact are nil, but wouldn't that be something.

That picture was posted by the International Leica Society, not Leica USA; and it was in context of an auction site. I don’t think it’s a harbinger of a possible film P&S.
 
According to Leica Rumors, the new film camera to be announced this month will be M mount and slated to replace the current MP. That's a game changer, if true. If it's not a "budget" camera as I previously thought (as originally reported by Leica Rumors), it'll be at least comparably priced to the current M-A/MP.

How is a replacement of the MP a "game-changer"? It would simply be a continuation of Leica's current lineup.
 
Coming out with a replacement for the MP is a completely different situation compared to a low-cost alternative to the MP.

Hasn't the low cost alternative rumor been debunked? That was just some guy on the internet guessing, wasn't it? Still not sure how an MP replacement would be a game changer. What game is being changed?
 
I don't see how they can offer a cheaper alternative to the MP or the M7 unless they sacrifice the rangefinder and offer a scale focus camera like the M1 or a viewfinderless one like the MD. The P&S route suggested here would be clever, there is demand in that sector I think. And a new Minilux with a viewfinder that doesn't make you want to throw it away would be nice. I have no doubt the asking price will be staggering.
 
I don't see how they can offer a cheaper alternative to the MP or the M7 unless they sacrifice the rangefinder and offer a scale focus camera like the M1 or a viewfinderless one like the MD. The P&S route suggested here would be clever, there is demand in that sector I think. And a new Minilux with a viewfinder that doesn't make you want to throw it away would be nice. I have no doubt the asking price will be staggering.

If you want a cheaper alternative to the MP or M7 outsource the production but I think „real“ Leica customers will pay almost every price - Leica became a boutique brand and they can afford to command astronomical prices.
 
If they dump the cloth shutter and go to a modern one then they could reduce the price and increase their profit. Just sayin'...
 
I don't see how they can offer a cheaper alternative to the MP or the M7 unless they sacrifice the rangefinder and offer a scale focus camera like the M1 ...
That would be attractive to Leica - simpler manufacturing costs, no adjustments, no future repairs. Would it be attractive to buyers? Maybe - especially if the lens is great and the price is attractive.

If they dump the cloth shutter and go to a modern one then they could reduce the price and increase their profit. Just sayin'...

As for a metal shutter - does Leica have the expertise and facilities to do this in-house? If outsourced - I don’t know if they could find a supplier. Usually it makes sense financially if they place a large order with a supplier - lack of a shutter and being able to find a supplier for low volumes is what doomed the kickstarter-Reflex.
 
From a fairly connected source personally, I've been told that it's a modern M6 meant to be a cheaper alternative to the MP and MA. This was at the beginning of 2022.
 
Why not the metal shutter of the digital Ms? And instead of the trigger winder auto wind a la Konica? IMO it should be different not just another M…
 
According to a similar thread on http://l-camera-forum.com this new film camera has been being tested for 9 months already. It seems that their consensus is M6 style with electronic shutter with a top speed of 1/4000th with a sprinkling of new a CM style camera. Not far from our guesses really.
 
All the more reason to keep my M6 Classic, I suppose. Plus my M5 and two M2s. Every "affordable" model seems to be more than my car's worth.
 
According to a similar thread on http://l-camera-forum.com this new film camera has been being tested for 9 months already. It seems that their consensus is M6 style with electronic shutter with a top speed of 1/4000th with a sprinkling of new a CM style camera. Not far from our guesses really.

That hits me hard. Electronic shutter in a Leica. Bah!

Erik.
 
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