Particular
a.k.a. CNNY, disassembler
John, I don't remember my source about SS and the SL2, but I know he used a Pentax 645 for about half the body of work for the Genesis exhibition. Cal
I've seen a picture of him with an R6 (not actually sure which R). It is probable floating around the internet somewhere. I don't know what else he used.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Where did you hear that Cal?
John,
Seems I had slured thinking. I mistook my research on the Leica R6.2 another SLR I was interested in. This R is fully mechanical and is kinda styled for you because it is mucho small. Not expensive either.
I'm kinda a pre-Minolta and post-Minolta all German camera kinda guy.
Cal
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
I've seen a picture of him with an R6 (not actually sure which R). It is probable floating around the internet somewhere. I don't know what else he used.
Christian,
He also shot M-bodies.
Cal
John,
Seems I had slured thinking. I mistook my research on the Leica R6.2 another SLR I was interested in.
Ah yes, I had known that. I remember back in the 90s thinking why is he using that instead of a M (well, I was a bit closed minded regarding SLRs at the time)! I do like the R6 though. It is still a Minolta though at that point right? I've always been interested in them, but at this point I know it'll only be a brief fling.
finguanzo
Well-known
He shoots with Canon for some time now, different articles, interviews Ive seen..
I thought Genesis was mostly shot on digital..??
I thought Genesis was mostly shot on digital..??
Hmmm, wonder why we never saw one of these at a meet-up...
http://www.fineandrarethings.com/im...si_kern_apo_makro_switar_50mm_f1,9_web_07.jpg
http://www.fineandrarethings.com/im...si_kern_apo_makro_switar_50mm_f1,9_web_07.jpg
SuperUJ
Well-known
The shutter sound of the Alpa that I played with was as loud as my alarm clock. Very well built camera though.
John
John
John, I think it would suit Cal well though.
JuJu
Well-known
It's been a while, bro Tung. How have you been? My GAS for a BP 35 Cron ASPH did not come back until Cal showed me his during the beauty contest a coupla months ago. Thanks for the confirmation for the FLE. I am not sure my bank nor my life likes the answer, though.
John
Brother John
Life is good, other than constantly being kicked in the face (by Max, not Monica, luckily). it's not 2010 anymore. Proceeding patiently, bargains are to be found
Tung
Tung,
I paid $4K for my "E60" but today that is a good price.
BTW together you and John kinda have the entire Leica catalog covered. My nitch are monster cameras, odd balls, and freaks.
Friday is expected delivery of my black R8. I perfer the R8 over the R9 mainly because the R8 weighs 100 grams more. The R8 actually has a steel fram that was updated to aluminum in the R9. Also for further weight savings they tried to lighten the R9 further by changing the top plate to magnesium, where the R8 has a zinc top plate.
The advances for flash of the R9 are kinda moot for me, and a huge turn off is the third frame counter on the top plate between the shutter dial and film advance. How many frame counters does one need?
They don't make German cameras like they use to. LOL.
Cal
Cal,
Yep, I know your taste on cameras quite well. I had an R8 with motor drive for quite a while. I love the design and build, but it's just too big that my index finger hardly reaches the shutter release comfortably (my hands aren't exactly tiny). I am now settled with your tiny black F2 with converted 35 Cron-R.
Tung
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
He shoots with Canon for some time now, different articles, interviews Ive seen..
I thought Genesis was mostly shot on digital..??
Fidel,
For Genesis SS shot about half with film using a Pentax 645, and the other half with a Canon DSLR.
Two things are remarkable about the show: one is that the size of the prints is way beyond supersized (some are 4x5 feet); and the other thing is that the differences in image IQ is kinda im-Per-Seeve-able.
I reviewed the show three ways: once was to just take in the 200 images; next was to think of my favorite images that I though were "Iconic" that I would remember after the show; and thirdly to distinguish the analog capture from the digital capture which was rather difficult to do.
To me the analog images had the edge as far as the highlights in their detail and textured softness, but the digital capture definately won in the shadow details. Even so it was hard to distinguish the difference in the prints, even though they were blown up into a crazy scale of enlargement.
Understand that the French lab in Paris made 4x5 digital negatives to wet print these images. Very impressive. Also I found it soothing that SS took a decade of travel and shooting before putting together this exhibition. Now I don't feel so bad about just blasting away without any reguard to printing until recently. I've been shooting for 8 years just performing image capture untill this January when I started printing digitally.
Cal
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Ah yes, I had known that. I remember back in the 90s thinking why is he using that instead of a M (well, I was a bit closed minded regarding SLRs at the time)! I do like the R6 though. It is still a Minolta though at that point right? I've always been interested in them, but at this point I know it'll only be a brief fling.
John,
You are correct: the R6 is in colaboration with Minolta. Know that the model you really want is the R6.2 which has the higher shutter speed of 1/2000. This is a big deal. Only a $500.00 camera, and all mechanical for flavor.
BTW I think owning and using lots of gear keeps me fresh and prevents me from getting stale. Being old it is good to maintain flexability, and it is great not to embrace rigid thinking.
Cal
BTW I think owning and using lots of gear keeps me fresh and prevents me from getting stale. Being old it is good to maintain flexability, and it is great not to embrace rigid thinking.
The R6.2 is nice... but I just don't have a good film workflow these days. I'm happy with the 3-4 cameras I use currently. I agree though... it is good to switch things up and use different stuff. It's partly the reason I bought a DSLR and an 85mm. Now I'm comfortable with anything between 28-85mm...meaning I know where to stand with these lenses before I even bring the camera to my eye. I can't say the same for any focal lengths outside of this range.
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Cal,
Yep, I know your taste on cameras quite well. I had an R8 with motor drive for quite a while. I love the design and build, but it's just too big that my index finger hardly reaches the shutter release comfortably (my hands aren't exactly tiny). I am now settled with your tiny black F2 with converted 35 Cron-R.
Tung
Tung,
Now you are giving me GAS for another black F2. I did another dumb thing and sold another black DE-1 to Jean-Marc. Ahhhh
I'm looking into getting a 35 Lux, 35 Cron, or 35 Elmarit version 2 or version 3. The 35 Elmarit version 2 and 3 share the same optics, but version 2 has a retangular hood and is series 7, and the version 3 has the built in hood and E55. A 35 Elmarit version 2 costs no money and has lower distortion than your Cron.
The SL2 has a 7mm spot meter with matched needles. Very F2/mid seventies vibe to the metering, but in may ways it is like a Nikon F2 but on steriods and implants because the level of overbuild is so "German."
I'm wondering if I can convert my Olympus 24/3.5 shift lens to the SL2-MOT because the SL2-MOT VF'er somehow really snaps the focus with wides for some unknown reason. "Brutal," I say.
Cal
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
The R6.2 is nice... but I just don't have a good film workflow these days. I'm happy with the 3-4 cameras I use currently. I agree though... it is good to switch things up and use different stuff. It's partly the reason I bought a DSLR and an 85mm. Now I'm comfortable with anything between 28-85mm...meaning I know where to stand with these lenses before I even bring the camera to my eye. I can't say the same for any focal lengths outside of this range.
John,
Over the years I've seen you grow a lot. Now you shoot with a 28, and 85 FOV is kinda fresh.
My approach of embracing both digital and analog in an extreame manner as seperate mediums is really crazy, really expensive, but I know the payback is great for my creativity. No rigid boundries, definately no ruts, and endless surprises.
Too bad you won't be at the next Meet-Up to see some prints. You've been waiting years... LOL.
Cal
Too bad you won't be at the next Meet-Up to see some prints. You've been waiting years... LOL.
Yeah, it does suck... but hopefully we will see them on a gallery wall somewhere in the near future...
Calzone
Gear Whore #1
Yeah, it does suck... but hopefully we will see them on a gallery wall somewhere in the near future...
John,
The 28 Prints I'll be bringing are 13x19's that I consider proofs that I made as work prints for editing. Some display flaws like dead pixels or sensor durt/smudge that still require spotting. Really these are made mostly for developing the tonality and for editing, that's why I consider them proofs and not finnished prints.
Prints for exhibition will be slightly larger on 17x22 with a modest border for framing utilizing floating hinges in an archival mounting. Image size on the 17x22 will only be 13.33x 20 inches.
I've only been printing with Piezography since January of this year, and remember this is from a someone that never printed digitally before, the results are stunning none the less, but I have not taken them to the next level.
Cal
I've only been printing with Piezography since January of this year, and remember this is from a someone that never printed digitally before, the results are stunning none the less, but I have not taken them to the next level.
Cal
Cal, I've found with printing that the best tool is your eyes. I'm sure the 13x19" prints are great... since you are an IQ stickler.
I've seen plenty of exhibition prints that aren't that great out there. There strangest being this show:
http://www.laurencemillergallery.com/herzog_in_color.html
The 20x30" inkjet prints from old slide film just weren't up to par. Great photography none-the-less.
SuperUJ
Well-known
The R6.2 is nice...
Has the price of R6.2 come down yet? When I still had the R8 and R glasses, I was eyeing on a great condition R6.2 for a long time but did not pull the trigger as $1K was just too much as compared to a Nikon FM2.
John
John, the R6.2 cameras on ebay are priced anywhere from $550 to $1995 (with several under $1000). Tamarkin, Igor, and KEH don't have any to compare in pricing.
I'm shocked that Tamarkin has a few R8s for less than $500. I hadn't realized those came down so much.
I'm shocked that Tamarkin has a few R8s for less than $500. I hadn't realized those came down so much.
SuperUJ
Well-known
I'm shocked that Tamarkin has a few R8s for less than $500. I hadn't realized those came down so much.
John,
Yeah, R8 is a steal now for those with big hands as Tung has already mentioned. The R glasses however are not. Tools like Leitax and R-M adapters are keeping their prices up.
John
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