Erik van Straten
Veteran
It is not evenly covered across the lens, I would say in the centre it is at most and towards the sides it disappears, but in fact it is hard to see. I have other Elmars and a Hektor that show this phenomenon too. I don't know if "blooming" is the right word for it, I am not a native speaker of English. It has absolutely no effect on the transparency of the glass. It simply looks like a very thin coating with iridecent colors.
Erik.
Erik.
Montag006
Established
Book on Leica I
Book on Leica I
I would very much like to see and purchase a book on the Leica I, of course with many photographs
Book on Leica I
Yes, I know what you mean. I've been studying the Leica I for many years. The development of the camera from 1924 to 1930 is fascinating. Many things were added or changed during those years. A book on the subject is most welcome.
Erik.
I would very much like to see and purchase a book on the Leica I, of course with many photographs
Dralowid
Michael
The surface of the uncoated lens, 85 years old, shows some coloring, like coating, and in fact it works as such. Do not try to clean it!
Erik.
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I thought I'd post this to demonstrate differences in engraved lettering on early Elmars.
Erik's is in the 5x,xxx range and mine in the 1x,xxx but nothing like as tidy!
Michael

Erik van Straten
Veteran
Thank you, Michael, very interesting.
Could be that when Leitz concluded that the Leica was a success, they invested in new machinery and an improved design. The later numerals are sharper defined and easier to read. Bigger too.
Erik.
Could be that when Leitz concluded that the Leica was a success, they invested in new machinery and an improved design. The later numerals are sharper defined and easier to read. Bigger too.
Erik.
Dralowid
Michael
I've lost the original of my avatar which also shows this older type.
I have also misplaced a CD on which there is an old short film showing the manufacture of the Leica I and casting of some microscope parts at Wetzlar.
Anyway I assume this is on the internet somewhere?
I have also misplaced a CD on which there is an old short film showing the manufacture of the Leica I and casting of some microscope parts at Wetzlar.
Anyway I assume this is on the internet somewhere?
Erik van Straten
Veteran
I have also misplaced a CD on which there is an old short film showing the manufacture of the Leica I and casting of some microscope parts at Wetzlar.
Anyway I assume this is on the internet somewhere?
Yes, it is on YouTube, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfN3mx_ZQN8.
It is said that Barnack himself made the film.
Erik
nhchen
Nathan
Here is my two black LTM cameras, a leica IIIc and a Corfield Periflex.
The chrome on the IIIc was almost all gone when I got it so I stripped it off and painted it black. I also covered it in black kid skin.
I havn't used the periflex yet, but hoping to soon!
regards,
nathan
The chrome on the IIIc was almost all gone when I got it so I stripped it off and painted it black. I also covered it in black kid skin.
I havn't used the periflex yet, but hoping to soon!
regards,
nathan
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maddoc
... likes film again.
Wonderful photo, Erik! Indeed, the lens is performing incredibly well.
As I understand it, the chemical slow self-oxidation process of the unprotected (uncoated) glass-surface leads to this kind of glass-oxide coating, showing the color in your previous photo of the lens. Is this correct?
As I understand it, the chemical slow self-oxidation process of the unprotected (uncoated) glass-surface leads to this kind of glass-oxide coating, showing the color in your previous photo of the lens. Is this correct?
Leica I No.52783, Elmar 50mm f/3.5, Tmax400.
The lens is like new. Incredible performance.
Erik.
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Erik van Straten
Veteran
Wonderful photo, Erik! Indeed, the lens is performing incredibly well.
As I understand it, the chemical slow self-oxidation process of the unprotected (uncoated) glass-surface leads to this kind of glass-oxide coating, showing the color in your previous photo of the lens. Is this correct?
Thank you, Gabor!
Yes, I understand the phenomenon exactly this way. I have another lens from the same era that has it too, a Hektor 50mm. Also my wartime Elmar has it, but I never saw it on a Summar. Maybe it has to do with the type of glass.
Erik.
Fadedsun
Established
I feel like everyone else's Elmars show the distance scale in meters, while mean shows it in feet (I wonder why). I wish mine had meters; less numbers to look at it.
ssmc
Well-known
Here's mine... finally!
1954 IIIf, 1960 Canon lens. Hey, at least the lens cap is made in Germany!
1954 IIIf, 1960 Canon lens. Hey, at least the lens cap is made in Germany!

SpikeT
Established
1950 Leica IIIC
1950 Leica IIIC
After some time messing around with Feds and Zorkis, I have finally obtained "the real thing"!
Summitar is very clean with only a little dust, and the body is only spoiled by some corrosion on the bottom plate. Everything seems to work smoothly; but of course putting a film through it will be the test.
Took a few shots with the Summitar mounted on my Olympus E-M1 and the results were so sharp; amazing for such an old lens.
Had a look on eBay for a replacement bottom plate, but they are more than half of what I paid for the camera, Any suggestion as to where I could source one would be gratefully received. Thanks.
1950 Leica IIIC
After some time messing around with Feds and Zorkis, I have finally obtained "the real thing"!
Summitar is very clean with only a little dust, and the body is only spoiled by some corrosion on the bottom plate. Everything seems to work smoothly; but of course putting a film through it will be the test.
Took a few shots with the Summitar mounted on my Olympus E-M1 and the results were so sharp; amazing for such an old lens.
Had a look on eBay for a replacement bottom plate, but they are more than half of what I paid for the camera, Any suggestion as to where I could source one would be gratefully received. Thanks.
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finarphin
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maxmadco
Well-known
1937 IIIa with 35mm f2.8 Schneider-Kreuznach Xenogon and Scnoo
1954 IIIf with 50mm 1.5 Summarit

1954 IIIf with 50mm 1.5 Summarit

unclepiak
Newbie
This is mine, 1946 IIIc mod f + summitar 50/2.

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Jerevan
Recycled User
SpikeT,
I'd ask around in the usual repair places, like dagcamera.com, sherrykrauter.com or yyecamera.com.
It is a very typical thing for these early postwar year model to have bad chrome. Mine (from 1949) exhibits the same chrome loss.
Nice that yours has the "sharkskin" vulcanite. BTW, my baseplates measures 135 mm across the length. The earlier ones are a few mm shorter as far as I understand it.
I'd ask around in the usual repair places, like dagcamera.com, sherrykrauter.com or yyecamera.com.
It is a very typical thing for these early postwar year model to have bad chrome. Mine (from 1949) exhibits the same chrome loss.
Nice that yours has the "sharkskin" vulcanite. BTW, my baseplates measures 135 mm across the length. The earlier ones are a few mm shorter as far as I understand it.
Dguebey
Amateur

The same in 35mm configuration

SpikeT
Established
Bottom plate
Bottom plate
Thanks to Ron and Jerevan for the offer and advice.
For now I have fixed the bottom plate by covering it with a half case!
P2030041 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr
Been shooting with it for the past week, along with an M6 which someone kindly loaned me. The M6 is easier, but the IIIC is a more involving experience.
Bottom plate
Thanks to Ron and Jerevan for the offer and advice.
For now I have fixed the bottom plate by covering it with a half case!

Been shooting with it for the past week, along with an M6 which someone kindly loaned me. The M6 is easier, but the IIIC is a more involving experience.
lxmike
M2 fan.
Spicy
Well-known
Thanks to Ron and Jerevan for the offer and advice.
For now I have fixed the bottom plate by covering it with a half case!
P2030041 by pattayadays.com, on Flickr
Been shooting with it for the past week, along with an M6 which someone kindly loaned me. The M6 is easier, but the IIIC is a more involving experience.
Sweet case. Where'd it come from?
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