Roger Hicks
Veteran
Dear Andy,Andy Aitken said:I'm thinking that in the past Mr K has avoided going head to head with Leica - all the CV's have had different FL/aperture combinations from Leica lenses but perhaps feels that Leica have broken the unspoken agreement with the new Summarits (3 of the 4 being quite similar to previous CV lenses). If the gloves really are off ....
There never was an unspoken agreement.
Cheers,
R.
Kim Coxon
Moderator
Roger,
How dare yoy say that.
You must know how many people like conspiracy theories.
Kim
How dare yoy say that.
Kim
Roger Hicks said:Dear Andy,
There never was an unspoken agreement.
Cheers,
R.
xayraa33
rangefinder user and fancier
Like conspiracy theories?
We love them, life is meaningless without them.
We love them, life is meaningless without them.
lic4
Well-known
Hopefully this will drive down the costs of all the Leica 35 lenses too. Supply and demand.
amateriat
We're all light!
I don't think I'd hold my breath on that one. Some Leica gear is gravity-defying in terms of market value in spite of almost anything. I'm just happy this new lens is coming out. If (most likely) and when I get it, I won't have the L brand much on my mind...just how nice low-light shooting suddenly became.lic4 said:Hopefully this will drive down the costs of all the Leica 35 lenses too. Supply and demand.
- Barrett
neelin
Established
Tom A said:When we in Japan last March Mr Kobayashi and I discussed the idea of a 35f1.4 extensivly.
Sorry for asking, but this begs the obvious question....So what other lenses did you & Mr. Kobayashi discuss extensively?
Robert
Dingo
Well-known
strangely i didn't see any 28mm lens on that cosina web page, but 4 35mm instead, why ? surely a 28/1.4 would be more than amazing.
chut
Luceat Lux Vestra
price and availability in HK
price and availability in HK
according to Cosina Voigtlander's Hong Kong distributor, Lai Kok Photo, the Nokton 35/1.4 suggested retail price will be HKD8,500 (USD 1088) and will be available in mid February.
actual street prices should be lower depending on each dealer, but even then, that's quite a lot more than what people were estimating.
anybody have any other price info to confirm/contradict this?
price and availability in HK
according to Cosina Voigtlander's Hong Kong distributor, Lai Kok Photo, the Nokton 35/1.4 suggested retail price will be HKD8,500 (USD 1088) and will be available in mid February.
actual street prices should be lower depending on each dealer, but even then, that's quite a lot more than what people were estimating.
anybody have any other price info to confirm/contradict this?
Bob_McBob
My paycheque goes to RFF
The 75,000 yen MSRP on Cosina's site strongly indicates a US price well below what the Hong Kong distributor mentioned. I would expect CameraQuest to sell the lens for around $500.
jlancasterd
Member
neelin said:Sorry for asking, but this begs the obvious question....So what other lenses did you & Mr. Kobayashi discuss extensively?![]()
Robert
A nice, fast, 24 or 25mm in the same style as the 35/40mm (f2.0 for preference to keep it fairly small)?
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Nachkebia
Well-known
if it has texture close to planar 50 zm this might become my primary lens! small! fast!!
veraikon
xpanner
I just looked in in the homepage of some of the german Voigländer -sellers.
At Mundus I couldn´t find the new Nokton 1.4/35 but the "new" 1.9/28 Ultron with M-Mount. It is just 60 € cheaper than the LTM Version:
Unfortunatelly this dealer isn´t my favourite
and at the 1.2/35 I found the following remark:
"AUFGRUND einer derzeit laufenden Voigtländer-Promotion in unserem Hause für kurze Zeit zum Sonderpreis , nur solange Vorrat reicht !"
Seems to run out.
At Mundus I couldn´t find the new Nokton 1.4/35 but the "new" 1.9/28 Ultron with M-Mount. It is just 60 € cheaper than the LTM Version:
http://www.foto-mundus.de/shop/voigtl%C3%A4nder-ultron-28mm19-asph-leica-p-6057.htmlVoigtländer Ultron 28mm/1.9 Asph. Leica M
[19482] 439.99EUR
[inkl. 19% MwSt zzgl. Versandkosten]
http://www.foto-mundus.de/shop/images/ampel/ampel3gruen.jpg [ Lieferbar ]
Unfortunatelly this dealer isn´t my favourite
and at the 1.2/35 I found the following remark:
"AUFGRUND einer derzeit laufenden Voigtländer-Promotion in unserem Hause für kurze Zeit zum Sonderpreis , nur solange Vorrat reicht !"
Seems to run out.
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ath
Well-known
I'm pretty sure, this is the LTM 28 with adapter.
Wow, 28mm is a huge whole at the Cosina web site and in their line up. The photos though of that M Ultron look just like the LTM lens, which is a good thing, means I don't feel any need to sell the LTM for the newer M. The only reason to do so would be for a physically smaller lens, with like performance.
veraikon
xpanner
You are right !ErikFive said:It says Leica M-Bayonett UND M39 Gewinde. UND means and...
But why they are selling the only LTM - Lens for 60 € more than the "M"lens (LTM+ adapter?)
http://www.foto-mundus.de/shop/voigtl%C3%A4nder-ultron-28mm19-asph-p-357.htmlVoigtländer Ultron 28mm/1.9 Asph. M39
[19482] 499.00EUR
[inkl. 19% MwSt zzgl. Versandkosten]
[ Lieferbar ]
Voigtländer Ultron 28mm/1.9 Asph. M39
.....
Brennweite 28 mm
.....
Gewicht 265 g
Filtergröße: 46mm
Kameraanschluß M 39 Schraubgewinde
ugly merchandisingVoigtländer Ultron 28mm/1.9 Asph. Leica M
[19482] 439.99EUR
A whole that still needs to be filled. The CV 50mm selection seems a little long in tooth too. If we are going to overhaul their line-up lets do them all.
We need 2 M 28mm lenses, an Ultron, perhaps in a new body, and Skopar like the others. I am ok wider than 28 and their 35 offerings are well differentiated. 50mm, the Nokton needs to be updated along the lines of the rover imagined new 28 Ultron and another offering would also fit, Skopar being the bread and butter for CV. The 75 and 90 will get the job done for now, maybe 2009 will be their year.
We need 2 M 28mm lenses, an Ultron, perhaps in a new body, and Skopar like the others. I am ok wider than 28 and their 35 offerings are well differentiated. 50mm, the Nokton needs to be updated along the lines of the rover imagined new 28 Ultron and another offering would also fit, Skopar being the bread and butter for CV. The 75 and 90 will get the job done for now, maybe 2009 will be their year.
Sparrow
Veteran
When the new cv 28 arrives, what’s the betting on f2 or faster?
Sparrow
Veteran
rover said:A whole that still needs to be filled. The CV 50mm selection seems a little long in tooth too. If we are going to overhaul their line-up lets do them all.
We need 2 M 28mm lenses, an Ultron, perhaps in a new body, and Skopar like the others. I am ok wider than 28 and their 35 offerings are well differentiated. 50mm, the Nokton needs to be updated along the lines of the rover imagined new 28 Ultron and another offering would also fit, Skopar being the bread and butter for CV. The 75 and 90 will get the job done for now, maybe 2009 will be their year.
A ridged f2 50 Heliar would be OK, the Nokton’s fine as it is
Captain
Well-known
When the new cv 28 arrives, what’s the betting on f2 or faster?
The photo from that German retailer clearly show that it is an M mount 28mm f1.9.
Captain said:The photo from that German retailer clearly show that it is an M mount 28mm f1.9.
I think we have established that is the current Ultron with LTM adaptor screwed in place.
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