Captain
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I think we have established that is the current Ultron with LTM adaptor screwed in place.
Fair enough, but the chrome mount in the photo looks alot thicker than a conventional M adapter. But your probably right but I cant see Cosina changing the optical design of the lens but just add an M mount as that has been their usual upgrade, especially when the lens is as good as the 28mm f1.9 is.
dazedgonebye
Veteran
I wonder if this thread will still be going when the first lens ships?
Looks like it.
Looks like it.
yoyo22
Well-known
dazedgonebye said:I wonder if this thread will still be going when the first lens ships?
Looks like it.
This thread is like the waiting room in an maternity ward. All the soon to be fathers are waiting impatiently for their babies to be delivered. Meanwhile the conversations go on like "How will it look like?", "What character will it have?", "How cute will it be?, "I cannot wait till I can hold it in my arms."
pau3
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I know that this has already been noted, but I cannot believe that
this thread has only had 279 hits.
Anyway, this 35/1.4 deserves talking. Even before it exists!
Pau
this thread has only had 279 hits.
Anyway, this 35/1.4 deserves talking. Even before it exists!
Pau
The counter is off pau.
veraikon
xpanner
Photoscala - a german online photo[info]journal has a short info about
http://www.photoscala.de/node/3936
The single news is that Voigländer says that it is not February but only in March available.
http://www.photoscala.de/node/3936
The single news is that Voigländer says that it is not February but only in March available.
raid
Dad Photographer
"AUFGRUND einer derzeit laufenden Voigtländer-Promotion in unserem Hause für kurze Zeit zum Sonderpreis , nur solange Vorrat reicht !"
translation; Due to the ongoing Voightlaender promotion in our store for a short time available at the specia lprice, and only as long as inventory available.'
translation; Due to the ongoing Voightlaender promotion in our store for a short time available at the specia lprice, and only as long as inventory available.'
veraikon
xpanner
yes but it concerns the 1.2/35 . For me it looks like a selling-out before the 1.4 arrives.raid said:"AUFGRUND einer derzeit laufenden Voigtländer-Promotion in unserem Hause für kurze Zeit zum Sonderpreis , nur solange Vorrat reicht !"
translation; Due to the ongoing Voightlaender promotion in our store for a short time available at the specia lprice, and only as long as inventory available.'
ath
Well-known
The new Nokton is already listed in Germany: http://www.foto-mundus.de/shop/voig....html?osCsid=6ef22e8cdaceff66d7af6227b1c84763
Lens 399.99€
Hood 69.99€
Set: 459.99€
all not available yet.
I guess that puts some pressure on the US price. The Nokton 40 is 330€ from the same list.
Lens 399.99€
Hood 69.99€
Set: 459.99€
all not available yet.
I guess that puts some pressure on the US price. The Nokton 40 is 330€ from the same list.
veraikon
xpanner
Thx. It was definetelly not listed on the home page this morning !
back alley
IMAGES
400 euros is like $577 american...more than i had hoped.
ath
Well-known
That's the wrong way to look at it. Gear has always been more expensive in Europe. Compare the prices of the Nokton 40 and you will likely be below U$450.
back alley
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ath said:That's the wrong way to look at it. Gear has always been more expensive in Europe. Compare the prices of the Nokton 40 and you will likely be below U$450.
i like that better
veraikon
xpanner
There is 19% VAT includedLens 399.99€
so it will be lower than 577US$is like $577 american.
raid
Dad Photographer
Take
{($ price of Nokton in USA/$ price of Nokton in Germany)} * ($ price of new lens in Germany*0.83.)
The factor 0.83 is simply 100% -17% Value Added Tax (VAT).
This should be a reasonable estimate as a starting point for the price of the 35mm/1.4 in the USA without sales tax.
price of nokton in germany= $450
price of nokton in usa = $350
price of new lens in germany=$577
Estimated price of new 35mm lens in usa= (350/450)*(577*0.830)=$372. It will be sold at a higher price to set it apart from the Nokton.
Most likely, the 35mm lens will sell for about $425-$450 in the USA.
{($ price of Nokton in USA/$ price of Nokton in Germany)} * ($ price of new lens in Germany*0.83.)
The factor 0.83 is simply 100% -17% Value Added Tax (VAT).
This should be a reasonable estimate as a starting point for the price of the 35mm/1.4 in the USA without sales tax.
price of nokton in germany= $450
price of nokton in usa = $350
price of new lens in germany=$577
Estimated price of new 35mm lens in usa= (350/450)*(577*0.830)=$372. It will be sold at a higher price to set it apart from the Nokton.
Most likely, the 35mm lens will sell for about $425-$450 in the USA.
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ath
Well-known
raid, in your formula you can take both german prices in € and save the conversion to US$, it makes no difference. What's the reason for the strange 0.83 factor?
EDIT: should read completely before typing re: 0.83
EDIT 2: I could swear, the 0.83 explanation was not there, when I read it first... ;-)
EDIT: should read completely before typing re: 0.83
EDIT 2: I could swear, the 0.83 explanation was not there, when I read it first... ;-)
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raid
Dad Photographer
ath said:raid, in your formula you can take both german prices in € and save the conversion to US$, it makes no difference. What's the reason for the strange 0.83 factor?
EDIT: should read completely before typing re: 0.83
EDIT 2: I could swear, the 0.83 explanation was not there, when I read it first... ;-)
Hi Andreas,
I agree with you.
I went back and added clarification for the 0.83 factor.
neelin
Established
raid said:Hi Andreas,
I agree with you.![]()
I went back and added clarification for the 0.83 factor.
Since you're going back for clarifications, how about for corrections.
If you really want to net the VAT, the correct ratio is 100/117 not 83/100 (17% on 83 doesn't add in to make 100).
So your real factor rounds to 0.8547. This will give you the price, net of VAT.
Since you didn't ask, I'll DARFC (duck & run for cover)
Of course this sort of precision is totally irrelavent on a non-existant product.
Sparrow
Veteran
HMC&R really is the axis of evil, what do you do for a living?neelin said:Since you're going back for clarifications, how about for corrections.![]()
If you really want to net the VAT, the correct ratio is 100/117 not 83/100 (17% on 83 doesn't add in to make 100).
So your real factor rounds to 0.8547. This will give you the price, net of VAT.
Since you didn't ask, I'll DARFC (duck & run for cover)![]()
Of course this sort of precision is totally irrelavent on a non-existant product.
neelin
Established
Just retired from my 21 year construction business where I regularly thought, "How about you boys & girls come & run my business, and just send ME a check for 14% sales (tax in Manitoba). I'll stay at home and lie in bed & eat chocolate cake like you-all are doing now"Sparrow said:HMC&R really is the axis of evil, what do you do for a living?
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robert
(I long ago resigned myself to the 14% as legalized extortion in exchange for protection....oh...then pay your corporate, personal taxes, and head home & pay the PST/GST (VAT) for stuff you buy for yourself)
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