Sigma DP2

This camera is rather compact. I have a Minolta cl with a sum-c 40mm lens mounted; I use a series of step-up rings as a make-shift hood. The depth of this setup measures approx. 3 inches. The dp2 specs are 4.5” (w), 2.3” (h), 2.2(d). I’m assuming that the depth measurement is with the lens retracted. So add another inch, lens extended?
The rest of the measurements and weight favor the dp2 by far with regards to compactness.
The other aps-c hybrid camera, Samsung nx mock-up, looked to be even more compact.
I find this new niche of aps-c hybrid compact cameras to be most intriguing. :D
 
Oh, I definitely find this new niche intriguing (and encouraging). But I agree with endustry - I'm looking for a compact camera, and the DP2 is just too big. The Contax T3 is 1.4" deep with an excellent f/2.8 lens.

Still, I almost want to buy one just to support Sigma. They obviously get it on some level.
 
emraphoto said:
... for some reason the g10 has an awesome scale but only in meters? after so many years of scale focusing with my brain in "feet" mode i just can't seem to think "meters". ...
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You can switch the G10 to ft/in - tools menu - distance units. Page 60 in the manual.
 
Good lens on the DP1

Good lens on the DP1

Although the DP1 (and DP2) are only just about pocketable (they will fit into a suit pocket), what you are getting is lens quality. The DP1 lens has been compared favourably to its bigger brother equivelents on a DP1 vs Sigma SD14 + zoom lens test, getting like for like results....nice and sharp thoughout, with minimal distortion etc, and Canon 5D-esque definiton levels.
 
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The zoomie buttons are in a bad place...the thumb will hit them all the time thereby ruling out setting ISO or something to them...hmmmm
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Nearly same layout has Ricoh GRDII and it works for me without problems. Thumb is placed between button columns and can reach controls pretty comfortable. For me the DP1 layout looks more limiting. I see this as step forward.
 
Sigma previously said DP1 will remain 'as is' but who knows.

Looking forward to the iso1600-3200 feature - i'm guessing it'll be in B&W only. Essentially what I've been doing manually so far but now in camera.
 
palec said:
Nearly same layout has Ricoh GRDII and it works for me without problems. Thumb is placed between button columns and can reach controls pretty comfortable. For me the DP1 layout looks more limiting. I see this as step forward.
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On the DP1, the buttons are horizontal....and the "T" button on the right,
I used to set it to ISO but would always hit it with my thumb....
now I have it to do nuttin...the "W" button does the ISO and sometimes I hit that by accident....

if the buttons are vertical, then the are in an even more dangerous place...right at the grip point for the thumb...

btw, I am using Richard's grip on the camera.....

don
 

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endustry said:
This is a sticking point for me. Compact camera with 3" telescoping lens = not compact camera IMHO. Ricoh has been making f/2.4 28mm prime compacts for over a decade that don't telescope half this much. I want to pat Sigma on the head and say, "Thanks for thinking of us prosumers and all but please for the love of all that is f**cking holy will you please hire an engineer who can differentiate between what is most efficient to build and what users want?" I'm waiting for the DP3 where they will hopefully (maybe) understand that the point of a prime lens is to be fast (missed on the DP-1) and compact (missed on the DP-2).

Flame away.
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Who cares about the extended length if it collapses back down when you turn the camera off? They chose to make the lens reverse-telephoto (like SLR wide-angle lenses) to avoid light falloff and for more even sharpness across the frame. The close-to-the-film tiny f2.8 lenses from film P&Ses would vignette horribly.

I think it's pretty amazing that they managed to make a camera the same size as the LX3 with a sensor ~8 times as large. So the lens isn't as fast, doesn't zoom, and extends a few mm further. It's also pretty sharp wide open and largely free of distortion and abberations.
 
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By the way, Amazon is estimating delivery somewhere between 4/29 and 6/05... so basically May.
 
Amazon DP1

Amazon DP1

During a recent Amazon low price I ordered a DP1 and they shipped me a Chinese version, complete with Chinese manual and with the camera set to Chinese. Either a gray market or a mistake. They promptly replaced it overnight. The next day the price was back to normal. This was the Amazon price direct from them, not through one of their marketplace sellers.

On top of that there was absolutely no padding in the shipping box, just the DP1 box floating loosely inside.
 
andrewteee said:
On top of that there was absolutely no padding in the shipping box, just the DP1 box floating loosely inside.
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They are known for doing that. They just toss the item in the shipping box and maybe one of those air cushions if you're lucky. Either way the item is is floating around loosely and they tend to use larger than necessary shipping boxes so plenty of opportunities for damage in transit. Price does not seem to make a difference with how they pack things. I have a DP2 on pre-order with them but I'm thinking of going with Adorama on it instead.

:bang:
 
I'm giving up on Amazon.com. Just yesterday I received an expanded copy of The Americans, and same thing - a 10 pound book floating inside a box without any padding whatsoever. Corners were dented and scratches on the cover. I sent it back today.
 
I've had a lot of bad luck with books on amazon... my copy of The Americans was slightly damaged, and a couple of other books had printing errors. With electronics, however, I've had excellent results. Their return policies are also excellent. I agree that they sometimes are sloppy about padding items, but I've never received any damaged electronics from them.

Their DP1 was 399 for a bit and now it's back up.
 
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